• LA Sheriff’s Deputies Rough Up Foreign Diplomat

    December 12, 2013

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    Posted in: Embassy/State

    You’d think America had enough problems with its foreign image, what with drone killings, NSA spying and the president shooting selfie’s at Mandela’s funeral. But you’d be wrong. LA Sheriff’s Deputies roughed up two foreign consuls in the course of official diplomatic business. Here’s why that matters.

    Consular Visitation of Citizen Prisoners

    One of the primary jobs for any embassy or consulate abroad is the welfare of its citizens. Indeed, many of the first diplomatic outposts abroad were set up to protect sailors and merchants. This work typically includes visiting one’s citizens in foreign jails, a task young diplomats around the world conduct. As a State Department foreign service officer myself for 24 years, I must have done this hundreds of times. But no matter how many times I did it, it was always an unsettling feeling to walk into a jail, go through security into a cell or holding room, and then walk back out.

    Getting out, and being treated properly inside, was however more than an act of faith on my part. Diplomats abroad are protected people; under both formal treaties and long-established traditions (“diplomatic immunity”), a country should not mess around with another’s diplomats. Take a look at Iran– over thirty years since the kidnapping of American diplomats in Tehran, our two countries still are a long, long way from reestablishing relations.

    I once safely visited in an underground facility of an Asian country’s secret police an American Citizen who likely had been tortured. The system generally works everywhere, from first world countries to crappy police states in the developing world. However, one rough area where it does not work is in Los Angeles.

    Abuse in the LA Men’s Jail by Sherriff’s Deputies

    Federal officials on December 9 unsealed five criminal cases filed against eighteen current and former Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies as part of an FBI investigation into allegations of civil rights abuses and corruption in the nation’s largest jail system. Four grand jury indictments and a criminal complaint allege unjustified beatings at downtown Los Angeles jail facilities, unjustified detentions and a conspiracy to obstruct a federal investigation into misconduct at the Men’s Central Jail. The latter allegations stems from sheriff’s officials moving an FBI informant in the jails to thwart the probe.

    But that somehow was not bad enough. New indictments de­tail three sep­ar­ate in­cid­ents in which pro­sec­utors al­leged that a sher­iff’s ser­geant en­cour­aged depu­ties he su­per­vised at the vis­it­ing area of Men’s Cent­ral Jail to use ex­cess­ive force and un­law­ful ar­rests of vis­it­ors.

    LA Unlawfully Arrests and Mistreats Foreign Diplomat

    The abuse found a low point when an Austrian consul went to the jail in June 2011 with her husband, also a diplomat, to visit an arrested Austrian citizen. The Federal indictment alleges that a deputy sheriff at the jail unlawfully arrested the diplomat husband, who clearly identified himself as such, outside the jail because he had “walked near the doors going into the visiting center.” His actions did not amount to a crime, the indictment asserts. Nevertheless, as the male diplomat was handcuffed, the female diplomat asked to see a supervisor. She was also arrested and handcuffed too, the indictment alleges, “despite the fact that [she] had committed no crime and would be immune from prosecution if she had.”

    A deputy then forcibly took the consul and her husband to a room outside of public view and searched them. One unconfirmed report suggests the male diplomat was thrown to the ground as he was being arrested.

    In addition to the outright abuse committed by the LA Sheriff’s thugs, diplomats are by treaty with the United States immune from search except under very special circumstances (routine consular work is not one of them.) While a small town cop well outside diplomatic circles might not know about all this, the visit by the Austrian consul was definitely not LA’s first trip around the dance floor.

    Another Not the First Time

    The scary thing for the Austrian diplomat was the similarity of her abuse and another case at the same jail. Gabriel Carrillo went to Men’s Central Jail as a free man to discuss problems visiting his brother there. Instead, a Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputy handcuffed him, took him to a break room with no windows or public access, and threw him against a refrigerator. His arm was fractured in the encounter and he received cuts to his nose and face. Afterward, four deputies tried to have him falsely charged with resisting an officer. Carrillo was detained for five days before he was released without charge.

    The State Department had to get involved in LA with the Austrian consulate to smooth things over and make the diplomatic incident go away. The story has apparently been kept out of the public eye until now, when the bigger tale of LA law enforcement acting completely out of control finally made it to the press.

    Another sign of America morphing into a police state.

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    • Long Time Ago said...


      The only thing that somewhat took me by surprise in this article was the last sentence:

      “Another sign of America morphing into a police state.”

      I used to live in the US in the 80s and coming from western Europe I was pretty immediately after arriving shocked at finding the US to be a police state (in the 80s!). Equally shocked were the many locals I befriended (ie Americans) when they found out that I perceived them to be living in a police state.

      Of course I assume that in those times everything was so much less “police stately” than it is today (heck even many Americans seem to find the US to be a police state today), but my main point is that I – that is my personal opinion based on having a different point of reference than a local (ie American) – think the US has been a police state for a very long time.

      Here I believe the main reason for American having gone awry is the core sentiment resting in the “America: love it or leave it” mentality. What it all boils down to is that in US culture there is very little place for criticism (which also shocked me) and it was like breaking a taboo to point out that things are not all that rosy after all.

      My recollection is that in the US “everything” had to be so hunky-dory all the time. Here I found it on the one hand comical how people continually repeated “the greatest nation on earth” and “the land of the free” and many other self-idolizing mantras over and over again, but tragic to realize that this kept people from feeling and thinking and assessing reality.

      In summary: I think that if American culture had treated its ideals as ideals to strive for instead of as ideals already having reached, America would have been much closer to those ideals today than it actually is. I sincerely hope that the American people will soon come to their senses and turn their country into the direction of the ideals in which they believe instead of letting it be steered into the abyss of the new dark ages.

      12/12/13 1:43 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      I knew it was only a matter of time before the L.A. County Sheriff’s hubris would be their downfall. Arrogance notwithstanding, the incarceration of a Foreign diplomat was their Great Moment in Monumental Stupidity, and hopefully will morph into an investigation of the entire L.A. county Justice system and then the entire state of California, as it is so monumentally corrupt as to defy comprehension. Consider the case of a L.A. county whistle blower I posted about not long ago…one Dr. Richard Fine.


      In his case, he was illegally incarcerated in for 18 months by the L.A. county sheriff, 9 of which were in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT, before they we’re forced to release him. His expose of corruption of the L.A. Supervisors and Superior Court collusion so enraged the P’sTB in California, the legislature rushed through a bill overnight, in secret, to exonerate and extend IMMUNITY to all the Judges and Supervisors who were involved.
      Unbelievable story. However, it was only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. L.A. County has been a bastion of Judicial/law enforcement corruption since the early 1900′s during the water wars, and continues to this day.
      Another massive case was the collusion of Superior court Judges in the 90′s who controlled a “slush fund” by virtue of the county’s use of AMS software. AMS was a software company owned by ex IRS Commissioner Charles Rossotti..which is a whole ‘nuther level of corruption… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_O._Rossotti
      However, this story is living proof that the higher one goes into the investigation of corruption, the more it goes down the memory hole..
      “The secret bank accounts of the judges of the LASC were exposed already over a decade ago in a series of papers by the Washington DC Insight Magazine, which reported on a series of corporation controlled by the judges of the LASC, and inexplicable funds movements in and out of those corporations. Regardless, no action by IRS, FBI, or US Dept of Justice in this regard was ever reported.Last time it was checked (around 2009), these corporations were still listed by the California Secretary of State.”unquote


      whudda thunk. The more the FBI investigates this story, the deeper it will be buried. Same ole shit. But I still hope these scumbag Sheriffs get sent to prison where they’ll be incarcerated with some of their victims. And you can bet your sweet bippy their thinking the same thing. Justice at it’s finest me thinks.

      12/12/13 2:05 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      sheeesh Peter..are you still moderating me? Well, I suppose I can just stop posting here if you like.

      12/12/13 2:07 PM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...


      Pitch, I am not moderating you. The anti-spam software seems to often redirect your posts. I try to approve them as fast as I can. I cannot find a way to change what the software does. I’ll do my best to keep trying and to manually get your posts online as fast as I can.

      12/12/13 2:09 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      “You call that police brutality? I got your police brutality right here.” – Frank Rizzo (he always thought LA cops are a bunch of pussies)

      12/12/13 2:43 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      Alright Peter. Cool. I didn’t know that. I thought maybe NSA was modding your site.:) I know their watching, but knowing they can do pretty much what they want at this point..I wouldn’t doubt if they CENSOR the net now. (insert rolling eye smiley here)

      As to: LA Sheriff’s Deputies Rough Up Foreign Diplomat, well they got nothing up on most urban police departments, New York notwithstanding, especially roughing up a “possible” child beater, even if he is a diplomat…


      Whoever is responsible for this atrocity, I’d like to be locked up with this animal for an hour.
      He’d wish he was never born. I submit though, if and when someone is convicted..he/she won’t last 10 minutes in a jail ANYWHERE.

      12/12/13 4:51 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      (Weary sigh)…

      PVB, probably almost none of your readers will understand why I think this is relevant to your above post, but in any case here ya go:


      12/12/13 5:21 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      However, the essence of the AMERICAN Empire, is more like this:


      12/12/13 5:26 PM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...


      Good to see you back here. Have you seen the stories on our man in Naples?

      12/12/13 7:15 PM | Comment Link

    • jo6pac said...


      12/12/13 10:03 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      Pitch: “I thought maybe NSA was modding your site.:) I know they are watching, but knowing they can do pretty much what they want at this point…”


      “The Obama advisory committee charged with examining the operations of the National Security Agency has concluded that a program to collect data on EVERY PHONE CALL made in the United States should continue.”

      12/13/13 1:45 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      melove..I tried to view the first link to “The Golden Empire..youtube says it’s “unavailable” now. I wonder why. not.

      And the second one..Holy moly. Alexander and Clapper. whudda thunk.

      And then the link to the Body Count article. Dead on notwithstanding, no pun intended, this made me sick ..
      quote:”The judge blamed Vicki Weaver for her own death, ruling that “it would be objectively reasonable for Mr. Horiuchi to believe that one would not expect a mother to place herself and her baby behind an open door outside the cabin after a shot had been fired and her husband had called out that he had been hit.”unquote

      Objectively reasonable. right. Just as it’s objectively reasonable to conclude Horiuchi is a sadistic murderer and Edward Lodge is a psychopathic tyrant. Living proof Federal Judges have excrement filling their skull cavities.

      As for Rich’s link..

      quote:”One of the expected recommendations is that the White House conduct a regular review of those collection activities, the way covert action by the C.I.A. is reviewed annually.”unquote

      CIA review=ROTFIGSL

      quote”In an interview last week on MSNBC, Mr. Obama said, “I’ll be proposing some self-restraint on the N.S.A., and, you know, to initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence.” But he gave no details.

      Proposing. Self “restraint”.

      News flash. NSA building collapses from 140db laughter. No survivors. Restraint indeed.

      12/13/13 4:10 PM | Comment Link

    • jim hruska said...


      Concerning police state status here in the homeland.
      Look at the Kennedy murder(Nov63) and compare the police response at that time to the police response during the Boston Marathon bomb incident.
      In one the POTUS was murdered and the police and federal response was pretty much just another day at the office. Hohum.
      In Boston the place was locked down and people held in their homes as if under house arrest , and the town was swarming with fed/state/local police/agents.Oh yeah, and military responders.All armed in military gear and ready for …..what?
      There’s a real contrast there.
      Then and now.
      jim hruska

      12/13/13 5:31 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      “Another sign of America morphing into a police state.”

      Keep posting unpatriotic articles like this and it’s down the memory hole for you, buster:


      12/13/13 7:12 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      Still some delays in getting back here. Meanwhile PBV asked me:

      “Good to see you back here. Have you seen the stories on our man in Naples?”

      Yes, and they remind me of this bit of ancient Italian history – but, the difference being that Mark Antony was a courageous man – but otherwise this applies to the American State Department’s man in Naples:


      12/14/13 7:09 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      And now, here’s my Christmas song for US Consul General Donald Moore:


      12/14/13 7:14 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      And then there’s this bit, about a long term, um, what? “Unpaid social liaison?” of the US Consulate in Yekaterinburg Russia? A Russian woman who came to America by f-cking an American woman’s husband behind his wife’s back, until his found out and divorced him for it:


      Related to this story, in my copies of that woman’s email, is the name of Dale Eppler, former US Consul General in Yekterinburg, Russia.

      HEY! Dale Eppler – and also Scott Rauland – how’s it going for you now, to be associated with Alla Schlate? Your Russian “unpaid social liaison?” Or if she wasn’t that, then why else do you strenuously cover for her after the crimes she has committed? Passport fraud and illegal immigration and all that.

      Oh, wait, I know! Maybe Dale Eppler and Scott Rauland know something I don’t know, about how the US State Department plans to use YOGA, to bring Russia to heel! Because that’s Alla’s main talent, it’s YOGA! How to use Yoga plus English as a Second Language, to change the world!

      Or rather, Yoga and myths and fairy tales! Yoga and Joseph Campbell mixed with some reinterpretations of Pushkin. Yeah, that’s the ticket, THAT’S why the US State Department strenuously protects Alla Schlate from prosecution for her felonies! Because it’s in the national interest of the USA, for Alla Onischenko Schlate – a half-educated Soviet woman from the backwaters of Udmurtia – to remain in America to teach about Yoga and fairy tales!

      Or more seriously, maybe she has extraordinary protection because of her personal relationships with various members of the US State Department, to which she has referred on some documents in my possession.

      12/14/13 7:46 PM | Comment Link

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