• Is the U.S. Paying Off Iran to Keep the Nuke Negotiations Alive?

    March 23, 2015

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    Negotiations require some back and forth, demonstrations of good will and good intent, and massive pay offs.

    Wait, what?

    The Obama administration in January handed over $490 million in cash to Iran, and will have released a total of $11.9 billion to the Islamic Republic by the time nuclear talks are scheduled to end in June, according to the State Department. The January release is the third such payment. The release of funds was agreed to by the Obama administration in November as part of another extension in negotiations over Tehran’s nuclear program.

    Iran will receive an additional ten payments from the United States through June 22, when talks are currently scheduled to end.

    Iran received $4.2 billion in similar payments under the 2013 interim agreement with the United States, and was then given another $2.8 billion by the Obama administration last year in a bid to keep Iran committed to the talks through November, when negotiators parted ways without reaching an agreement. The deal also gives Iran access to $4.2 billion from oil sales, with approximately $1.5 billion more from imports of gold and other precious metals, as well as easier access to “humanitarian transactions.”

    The money does not come from taxpayers’ pockets, but rather represents Iranian assets frozen in the U.S. as part of various sanctions imposed on Tehran. Most of the money was frozen in the wake of the 1979 Islamic Revolution that saw Iranians storm the U.S. Embassy and capture 52 American hostages.

    Not everyone outside of Tehran is happy about the arrangement. Some Republican lawmakers tried, but failed, to pass legislation last year to prevent the release of cash due to a lack of restrictions on how Iran can spend the money. They were concerned Iran could use the funds to finance terror or purchase weapons. Several Senators unsuccessfully asked the White House to certify Iran was not using the money to support terrorism.

    Republican statements aside, in negotiations the rule of thumb is to get something for everything you give. As best we can tell, what the U.S. has gotten for all that money so far is not much more than Iran’s willingness to keep sitting at the table. After all, there are ten payments left to be handed out before the negotiating process is considered a failure. The old adage may be worth remembering: if you’re not sure who the sucker at the table is, it’s you.




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    • Rich Bauer said...

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      “After all, there are ten payments left to be handed out before the negotiating process is considered a failure. The old adage may be worth remembering: if you’re not sure who the sucker at the table is, it’s you.”

      They are just waiting for US to kill ourselves.

      AP: Police in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, say a man is facing a charge of attempted manslaughter after he confessed to shooting his 18-year-old son during an argument over orange juice. Police report the two were fighting Sunday morning about the lack of orange juice.

      03/23/15 12:26 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      quote”Police in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, say a man is facing a charge of attempted manslaughter after he confessed to shooting his 18-year-old son during an argument over orange juice”unquote

      I could understand if it was beer, but orange juice? wait..it must have been for vodka. Although, I prefer tomato juice. 🙂 Meanwhile, at least one more dangerous Louisiana moron is off the street.

      As for Iran payments of their own money. The US sounds like a mommie holding back a kids weekly allowance unless he does his homework.

      “Several Senators unsuccessfully asked the White House to certify Iran was not using the money to support terrorism.”

      Several Senators unsuccessfully asked the White House to certify the CIA was not using the money to support terrorism.

      there..fixed it. 🙂

      03/23/15 1:13 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      “After all, there are ten payments left to be handed out before the negotiating process is considered a failure. The old adage may be worth remembering: if you’re not sure who the sucker at the table is, it’s you.”

      Indeed. A fool and his money..comes to mind.

      Barnum is ROTFIGSL. Iran must be chortling..”what a rube”.

      03/23/15 1:18 PM | Comment Link

    • CTuttle said...

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      Peter can I post this at FDL in your name…?

      03/23/15 11:14 PM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...

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      Yes, of course, anytime!

      03/24/15 11:34 AM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      “[…] The deal also gives Iran access to $4.2 billion from oil sales, with approximately $1.5 billion more from imports of gold and other precious metals, as well as easier access to ‘humanitarian transactions.’

      The money does not come from taxpayers’ pockets, but rather represents Iranian assets frozen in the U.S. as part of various sanctions imposed on Tehran. Most of the money was frozen in the wake of the 1979 Islamic Revolution that saw Iranians storm the U.S. Embassy and capture 52 American hostages. […]”

      Sorry, but I fail to see the problem here. I know we are all supposed to hate on Iran because, like, they are part of the axis of evil evilness and shit, but you are talking here about their own money, which we have – illegally, as these sorts of sanctions are against international law – seized and held from them for thirty years. And the oil sales money is simply letting them sell their own oil on the market. We should not have been allowed to cut off their access to the market this way, either.

      The neocon theory that people forced into suffering and hardship through such sanctions by outside countries will turn against their own government and bring about an internal “regime change” is not only unlikely to succeed, as most people know who is doing the damage and become more patriotic and supportive of their gov’t in such cases (see, for instance, the rise of Putin’s popularity within Russia in the onslaught of US propaganda against him); it is also a crime against humanity, as the civilian populations suffer tremendously under these harsh measures. Unemployment in Iran has risen to its highest its ever been with the past two years’ sanctions alone, and many Iranians are suffering with the restrictions placed on medical and food imports.

      We are doing this to a country which has not invaded any other country in over 200 years. Furthermore, Iran has allowed more inspections by the IAEA than are required and that group, as well as several US Pentagon officials, admit that Iran is not seeking nuclear weapons capacity. In any case, after selling or giving arms to the entire globe, particularly the ME countries, including nukes to Israel, and after we reneged on the nuclear-reduction agreements ourselves, who are we to tell everyone else what protections they are or are not “allowed” to have?

      “[…] in negotiations the rule of thumb is to get something for everything you give […]” All due respect, Peter, but what we are “giving” here is something we stole from them to start with. This is good faith negotiating? We invaded and (along with Great Britain) arbitrarily forced the division of Persia into several countries 100 years ago, then we staged a coup and overthrew their government a few decades ago, we and Israel (rather recently) hacked into and sabotaged their scientific computer systems, we tried to interfere with their last elections, and we have been caught flying drones over their country. We have had CIA operatives there since the CIA was formed.

      If either country is negotiating from the side of righteousness here, it surely is not the US.

      03/24/15 10:17 AM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...

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      The US has held the Iranian money in a hissy fit worthy of any Cuban hissy fit since 1979. Releasing it now simply serves the political needs of the White House, desperate for a major deal to claim as a legacy among eight years of foreign policy failures. It is a cynical gesture.

      03/24/15 11:47 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      meanwhile….

      Hahahahahahahahahahaha! US surveillance gets trumped by Israel, who then uses info gathered on Iran nuclear talks, for ole Net to flap his mouth to Congress. And Obama is pissed. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha…hohohohohohohohohohoh.. hehehehehehehehehehehe….hahahahahahahahahahaahah!

      ..make my fucking day!

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/03/23/israel-spied-iran-talks/70360804/

      03/24/15 12:38 PM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      PVB,

      Do you mean the Cubans have been having silly hissy fits, or that the US has been having hissy fits over Cuba? I don’t understand which you mean.

      Oblahblah’s lack of intelligent and moral foreign policy is only matched by that of his predecessor. And by his former Sec. State and her spokespeople.

      Even if the timing is a cynical and an openly political ploy, giving back some of what we stole is way beyond due.

      I think the first person who fully grasped the foreign policies of the US was, in fact, one of the first people who had to deal with them; sadly, I am not sure anything has changed in the meantime, as many countries have had to discover on their own. This is what he had to say about “good faith” negotiations and treaties with the US government:

      “They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they never kept but one; they promised to take our land, and they took it.” – MahpiyaLuta (Red Cloud), Oglala Lakota chief

      – Teri

      03/24/15 1:26 PM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...

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      US has been having hissy fits over Cuba since Castro Day One. Among our extensive irrational foreign policy, Cuba and Iran stand out. And of course Obama is just the latest president and Kerry the latest secretary of state to muck things up.

      But if this was more than politics with Iran, just give the money back. Today. In a clump, and right the wrong.

      03/24/15 1:32 PM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      Yes, I agree with that. Just give the money back and stop the bullshit.

      03/24/15 1:51 PM | Comment Link

    • Lisa said...

      12

      Yes, Peter, just waiting to take the money and run.

      Same, same, different day.

      Rich B.:

      That’s it, isn’t it? The o.j., the stupidity of it all. “Oh the humanity” meant something a bit more substantial when those words were first uttered.

      Taking a helicopter view, not so long ago we reached for the stars, now we seem to wallow about in the swill. A few steps up, several steps back, so the dance goes. We live like a metronome, fiercely refusing to ingest the lessons apparent.

      We don’t speak the truth or live it because it would require naming some ugly things, and the admission of our magnificent egotistical flub-ups.

      03/24/15 6:10 PM | Comment Link

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