• Is This What’s in Those 28 Pages? And Does it Matter?

    April 27, 2016

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    Did the CIA meet with some of the 9/11 hijackers ahead of the attacks on New York? Did the Saudi government help finance those hijackers? Someone knows the answers, and soon, you might know as well.


    This Summer?

    James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, told the New York Times the so-called “28 pages,” a still-classified section from the official report of the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001, may be released to the public as early as this summer. The full 838-page report, minus those pages, was published in December 2002.

    The pages detail Saudi Arabia involvement in funding the 9/11 hijackers, and were classified by then-President George W. Bush.

    So what do they say?


    The 28 Pages

    Richard Clarke is the former National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection and Counterterrorism for the United States. He is best-known for trying to warn the George W. Bush administration that a terror attack was imminent in the days preceding 9/11. As late as a July 5, 2001, White House meeting with the FAA, the Coast Guard, the FBI, Secret Service and the INS, Clarke stated that “something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it’s going to happen soon.”

    Here’s what Clarke said at a security forum held this week in New York about what those 28 pages will reveal:

    — 9/11 hijackers and Saudi citizens (15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis) Khalid Al-Midhar and Nawaq Al Hamzi met in San Diego with several other Saudis, including one who may have been a Saudi intelligence agent and another who was both an al Qaeda sympathizer and an employee of the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles.

    — The CIA also made contact with Midhar and Hamzi in San Diego, and unsuccessfully tried to “turn them,” i.e., recruit them to work for the United States. The CIA did not inform the FBI or others of this action until just before 9/11. (In a 2009 interview, Clarke speculated that the CIA would have used Saudi intelligence as an intermediary to approach the two al-Qaeda operatives.)

    — The 28 pages may include speculation that the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs funded mosques and other locations in the U.S. used by al Qaeda as meeting places and for recruitment.

    — The rumors that Saudi charities and/or the spouse of then-Saudi ambassador to the United States Bandar bin Sultan (who went on to be director general of the Saudi Intelligence Agency from 2012 to 2014) directly funded the 9/11 hijackers per se are “overblown,” according to Clarke.

    However, elements of Saudi charities and the ambassador himself did regularly provide funding to various Saudi citizens in the United States, for example, those needing money for medical care. It is possible that the 9/11 hijackers defrauded Saudi sources to obtain funds, but less clear that any Saudi government official knowingly funded persons for the purpose of committing 9/11.

    Alongside Clapper, Clarke too believes the 28 pages will be released to the public within the next five to six weeks.

    Others have suggested more clear ties between the hijackers and the Saudis, including multiple pre-9/11 phone calls between one of the hijackers’ handlers in San Diego and the Saudi Embassy, and the transfer of some $130,000 from Bandar’s family checking account to yet another of the hijackers’ Saudi handlers in San Diego.


    Not the What, But the Why

    Should the full 28 pages be released, there will no doubt be enormous emphasis placed on what they say, specifically the degree to which they implicate elements of Saudi Arabia and/or the Saudi royal family in funding or supporting the 9/11 hijackers. If the CIA contact with some of the hijackers is confirmed, that will be explosive.

    But as pointed out in Oliver Stone’s movie JFK (below), after the what is the why, and that answer has the potential to affect the future, not just document the past.


    — Why were the pages classified in the first place (who benefited?) and why did they stay classified now into a second administration, some 15 years after the events they discuss took place?

    — Why did the United States allow officials of the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs to work in the U.S. under diplomatic status? That Ministry’s existence goes back to the 1991 Gulf War. The presence of American troops in Saudi Arabia was a shattering event in the country’s history, calling into question the bargain between the royal family and the Wahhabi clerics, whose blessing allows the Saud family to rule. In 1992, a group of the country’s most prominent religious leaders issued the Memorandum of Advice, which implicitly threatened a clerical coup.

    The royal family, shaken by the threat to its rule, accommodated most of the clerics’ demands, giving them more control over Saudi society. One of their directives called for the creation of a Ministry of Islamic Affairs, which would be given offices in Saudi embassies and consulates. As the journalist Philip Shenon writes, citing John Lehman, the former Secretary of the Navy and a 9/11 commissioner, “it was well-known in intelligence circles that the Islamic affairs office functioned as the Saudis’ ‘fifth column’ in support of Muslim extremists.”

    Only one official in the Ministry of Islamic Affairs inside the U.S., Fahad al-Thumairy, was stripped of his diplomatic visa and deported because of suspected ties to terrorists. That was in 2002.


    — Why does the U.S. still allow allow officials of the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs to work in the U.S. under diplomatic status?

    — Why did the American government not arrest Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi national and employee of the Saudi aviation-services company Dallah Avco. Although he drew a salary, according to the New Yorker he apparently never did any actual work for the company during the seven years he spent in America. Bayoumi was in frequent contact with the Saudi Embassy and with the consulate in Los Angeles; he was widely considered in the Arab expat community to be a Saudi spy, though the Saudi government has denied that he was.

    — Why did the CIA not reveal its contacts with the two 9/11 hijackers? Who benefited?




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    • John Poole said...

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      I’m skeptical. Something spectacular? Perhaps something spectacularly lucky. Amateurs commandeering airliners and then successfully flying them into the two iconic structures in Manhattan?
      To explain- I had a hunch way back that Oswald was known by just about everyone to be planning to “soften up” JFK. The plan was to scare JFK into the realilzation that he needed lots of protection by FBI and CIA and didn’t dare ever again blow off their services and advice. Oswald never intended to kill JFK just wound a few fender runners. But something in his military training had him going for head shots. It is instinct when you look down that scope. It wasn’t supposed to happen. Maybe 9/11 wasn’t supposed to happen the way it did and those who knew about it ahead of time had no choice but to scuttle back to their lairs in shame.

      04/27/16 8:39 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      The information in this CLASSIFIED report has been on the internet for years.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/national/25HIJA.html

      04/27/16 9:40 AM | Comment Link

    • jim hruska said...

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      JP/PVB,
      Every thing that i know about Terrorism is contrary to the 911 attacks, as sold to us..
      There must be active and passive support.
      In the OKC bombing we have a similar disconnect in that the official govt sponsored myth is that 2 sorry malcontents carried out this high level attack. This is highly unbelievable and contrary to all historical data.
      In Dallas we are sold a bill of goods that a left wing crazy , in a right wing crazy part of the counttry carried out this shooting. When the rifle was shown the scope wasn’t even securely screwed down, so how was it zeroed? In the MLK murder the template is the same-a clearly identifyable shooter easily traced to a weapon, a dupe with a legend.Neither had a pre-planned escape route.
      Now heres my disconnect. Why/how are all terror perps id’d immediately after they successfully carry out an attack, but the forces of law and order didn’t , or couldn’t stop them? This was true in 911/okc/oswald/mlk shooter/paris/belgium/san bernadino.
      I don’t like to even skirt conspiracy theory, but why was the Warren commission classified?
      jim hruska aka rangeragainstwar

      04/27/16 9:44 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Peter said:
      “But after the what is the why, and that answer has the potential to affect the future, not just document the past.”

      Indeed. Recent Suadi threats to sell off $730 Billion dollars in US assets if the 28 pages are released is living proof. Interesting how Obama immediately flew to SA to kiss the Kings ass too. If he get’s his way..there won’t be a release either. Personally..I believe even it is released, it won’t positively answer diddley squat.

      HOWEVER… there is more to this than most people realize. In a name..
      Philip Zelikow. The chairman of the 9/11 Commission and the one responsible for the report.
      file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/martin/My%20Documents/PO/Philip%20Zelikow.htm

      Which for all intents and purposes was a cover up, and the Commission was a sham.
      http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/01/31/911-family-members-demand-answers-from-the-911-commission-the-censored-testimony-of-fbi%E2%80%99s-behrooz-sarshar/

      Without posting a bunch of crap, one only need the story of the Commission itself to see how this schmuck ran it to distort the history. But a single link will not do here. You have to research it yourself to see why. But here’s a good start…

      http://rense.com/general78/rapestory.htm

      Unfortunately.. it’s all moot now. We’re falling at freefall speed towards the bottom of the Surveillance State abyss. But something is really weird about this whole ball of wax. In a name… James Jesus Angleton..CIA psy chopath spook extraordinaire.

      Inasmuch as it really did NOT start with 9/11. In fact..it has to do with what the Intelligence community MINDSET has always thought. THEY are the ultimate saving grace of humanity. I kid you not…

      “Yet no historian can give short shrift to the man whom the Daily Beast recently dubbed “The Spider.” Angleton, who died in 1987, was a master of Cold War power politics, and a seer of the coming U.S. surveillance state. (snip)
      Whatever his faults, Angleton acted zealously on a theory of history whose validity is hard to accept and hard to dispute. He believed that secret intelligence agencies controlled the destiny of mankind.

      During his 27-year career at the CIA, from 1947 to 1974, he acted as if the CIA and the KGB were struggling over the future of civilization itself — which, of course, they were.The Cold War is over and Angleton is gone, but the espionage techniques he mastered — mass surveillance, disinformation, targeted assassination, and extrajudicial detention — remain with us, albeit on a much larger scale. Since September 11, 2001, the power of secret intelligence agencies to shape our future is obvious.”

      https://theintercept.com/2016/04/25/how-the-cia-writes-history/#comment-224616

      And therein lies the truth.. how the CIA rewrites history..by ERASING IT. Hence the 9/11 Commission. AND..the JFK Commission. Speaking of which.. Angleton had plenty to do with. But I’ll leave it at that. All I know is whatever connection the Suadi’s had with 9/11..you can bet your sweet bippy the CIA was involved in their involvement.

      Ok..carry on.

      04/27/16 10:39 AM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...

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      I’ll see your Angleton and raise you a Allen Foster Dulles. Dulles was running Nazi’s into the U.S. after WWII with the OSS, was later head of the CIA until fired by JFK, and then reappeared on the goddamn Warren Commission to investigate the assassination. Angleton was his enforcer, keeping those inside the CIA in fear and weeding out the real problem people who were not with the program.

      04/27/16 11:27 AM | Comment Link

    • Bruce said...

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      Bush, Billary, Barry-0 : Three’s Company (OR, the
      E卐CEϟϟ Of EVIL)!

      04/27/16 10:43 AM | Comment Link

    • Helen Marshall said...

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      Once you have realized what did not happen in Dallas or Los Angeles or Memphis, and what did, you get a glimpse of the state that really rules us, and it is – what? sickening? terrifying? incomprehensible? all of those. Going to sit in my garden and listen to the birds and hope to quietly live out my days before something else spectacular is arranged. But then, contemplating the Hillary administration to come, I doubt that hope will be realized.

      04/27/16 10:46 AM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...

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      Enjoy your garden, Helen, because I think the coup/transition is complete for a long time, 9/11 having finished what started in Dallas and having worked out so much “better” than expected. Moving Hillary into the White House just makes profiting from all that much easier.

      04/27/16 11:29 AM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...

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      “The CIA also made contact with Midhar and Hamzi in San Diego, and unsuccessfully tried to “turn them,” i.e., recruit them to work for the United States. The CIA did not inform the FBI or others of this action until just before 9/11. (In a 2009 interview, Clarke speculated that the CIA would have used Saudi intelligence as an intermediary to approach the two al-Qaeda operatives.) ”

      Sure. Because trying to work with the radicals in Afghanistan during that earlier war had proved such a fruitful experience, why not replicate? How did the honeymoon with the Taliban and Gubeddin Hekmatyar turn out?

      04/27/16 11:07 AM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...

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      PVB: “I’ll see your Angleton and raise you a Allen Foster Dulles.”

      His brother was secretary of state – John Foster Dulles. They orchestrated crazy stuff in the ’50s in the Middle East

      04/27/16 1:22 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      Well, let us all vow to learn to deal with an eventual very dark America and not let us burden our families, children or friends with our frustration and disappointment. It was just bound to happen- People all over the planet are living in police states through no fault of their own. We’re next.

      04/27/16 4:32 PM | Comment Link

    • Shea Brown said...

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      What no one is mentioning here is that the Pact for the New American Century , PNAC,, with Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld etc all on board and signing the 1998 paper, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” called for a Pearl Harbor type of attack on these United States. Read that paper,, see it in print for yourself. I think it is on page 54 ,,, it reads something like this,,, without a type of Pearl Harbor attack on the United States it will be nearly impossible to insert our troops into the middle east. PNAC and their neo con oil connected military/ind /complex money wrote the paper,,, and the event was provided. Any investigation of 9-11 should begin with the men who signed their names to that paper.They needed an excuse to insert our troops,, they wanted an excuse,, and they got exactly what they had asked for. Begin there friends,, begin there.

      04/27/16 6:30 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Blaming Saudi Arabia for 9-11 is ignoring the real culprits who made it all possible:

      http://11oclocknews.typepad.com/the_11_oclock_news/2016/04/the-fbis-tor-tured-defense-creates-bad-intelligence.html

      And the Usual Suspects are at it again.

      04/27/16 7:40 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      wemeantwell said..

      “I’ll see your Angleton and raise you a Allen Foster Dulles.”

      Indeed. And therein lies the whole ball of wax of how the CIA became what it is. We could spend a lifetime quoting, linking, writing and talking about what we think. Meanwhile, the tentacles of the Secret Team continue to reap upon the planet their evil devastation and death in the name of the .1%

      04/27/16 8:39 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Peter.. don’t underestimate the monstrosity of Angleton’s tenure.

      04/27/16 8:42 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      btw Peter… I’ve been contributing here for almost 6 years, and within that time, I’ve brought up the CIA crap at least a hundred times. I’m certainly no expert..but I can extrapolate shit as good as anyone. Especially since I lived through everything from the end of WW2 through Vietnam, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, etc etc etc. At this point in time..I’m convinced the CIA is a rogue planetary force authorized by virtue of Truman’s intent to place the CIA under USG statute to enable the Executive to do things never before intended by the Constitution. Unfortunately..he opened Pandora’s box..and forevermore regretted it. Unfortunately..he and Congress were idiots who never contemplated the depth to which 2000 years of “Intelligence” organizations have sought to control the planet. The CIA is no different. Only more moronic.

      04/27/16 9:03 PM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...

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      I always read my share of history, but the last years of writing here have been my education into what is really happening. It is not pretty.

      04/27/16 9:07 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Peter said:

      “Enjoy your garden, Helen, because I think the coup/transition is complete for a long time, 9/11 having finished what started in Dallas and having worked out so much “better” than expected. “unquote

      Holy shit Peter. This is the first time I’ve ever seen you actually opine your feelings in regards to JFK, by virtue of actually using the word “coup”, Dallas and relating it to what is happening today. Carry on brother. I’m all ears.

      04/27/16 9:23 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      To repeat my speculation. Everybody knew Oswald was scheduled to spook JFK with an assassination “attempt” No one figured he would actually inadvertently kill JFK including Oswald. I have no opinion about a second shooter. What I surmise was a plan by the CIA to get JFK’s attention and “remind” him that it was a dangerous world out there for do gooders and he’d better give them slack to do their thing if he knows what is best for his safety They found a looney tune guy to participate. Oswald was clueless about how deep the intentions were. Again, this is speculation I’ve held for forty years. Others must have also speculated in such a manner. I can’t be the only one. Remember Oswald said he did not kill JFK when arrested. His assignment was to wound a few in the car. He was probably as baffled as anyone why JFK ended up dead.

      04/27/16 10:04 PM | Comment Link

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    • Mike said...

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      Richard Clarke’s explanation for CIA withholding in an interview with the “Who is Rich Blee” team has never made much sense. Clarke explained that the CIA didn’t share the info because they feared being held accountable for withholding it. This suggests that CIA officials let a major terrorist attack proceed because they were more worried about a possible wrist slap penalty for withholding the info.

      Also left out of the CIA withholding narratives is that the info was shared with the FBI UBLU in late August 2001. Was this the point when the CIA realized their “turn the hijackers” plan was over? If so why did the UBLU proceed to withhold the info from the criminal side agents? Instead of turning the investigation over to the criminal side agents the investigation was marked routine and given to a single rookie intel side agent. Strangely in all the accounts of the UBLU conduct we never have any reference to high level FBI involvement in an investigation that concerned al Qaeda operatives inside the US during a period of high threat.

      Did the 9/11 Commission get to the bottom of all this weird CIA/FBI conduct? No they did not as admitted by commission legal counsel John Farmer (when he told journalist Aram Roston) “That is one of the big mysteries. Why was the information not passed on?”

      Who benefitted from all the secrecy? Everyone but the public.

      04/30/16 6:09 PM | Comment Link

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      Victims Can’t Sue Saudi Arabia
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZXq9w5CCmw

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