• Rule No. 1: It is Poor Judgement to Talk About Fight Club

    April 18, 2012

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    Posted in: Embassy/State, Iraq

    What counts as poor judgement or lack of discretion these days such that Federal employment is no longer suitable? It is a good question, because the State Department is proposing to fire me in part for my “poor judgement” as shown, they say, by these two blog posts, about Hillary Clinton laughing at someone’s death and about Michelle Bachmann being, well, insane. Meanwhile, a State Department VIP apparently has had sex on an Embassy roof, captured on video, not that that matters.

    Now of course both the White House and Embassy Kabul on Twitter chortled over the deaths of other people, so we know that laughing about others’ deaths is not “poor judgement.” Point noted.

    We have learned that having posed for Playboy doesn’t count as poor judgement for a Foreign Service Officer. Point noted.











    And we can show that as the US Ambassador to Iraq dressing as JFK’s unsuccessful Secret Service bodyguard for a Halloween party as Baghdad burned around you apparently isn’t poor judgement. Even after photos are posted on a popular photo sharing spot. Point noted.







    We also know that drunken parties in Islamic war zones like Baghdad, or Afghanistan, are not considered poor judgement (and yes, two of three people dressed as women in the photo are not women). Point noted.














    And we know that being photographed partying in Colombia while the news is dominated by illicit Secret Service partying isn’t bad judgement, even if the media call attention to the issue with headlines like “Swillary” and “Is Hillary Clinton becoming an embarrassment as Secretary of State?” Given that I am a source of her stress, I guess I should be more charitable when Hillary needs a drink. Seriously, though, while “humanizing” Clinton to her fan base in the US, I wonder if the foreigners it is her job to influence see it as a positive image.



    So that leaves us with a final case to decide whether or not poor judgement is afoot.

    What if a video existed that showed a prominent State Department VIP on the roof of the Republican Palace in Baghdad receiving, um, pleasure of an oral nature from another State Department officer not his wife, or even his journalist mistress of the time? What if that video has been passed around among Marine Security Guards at the Embassy to the point where it is considered “viral” with many copies made? What if the Deputy Chief of Mission, hand in hand with the Diplomatic Security chief (RSO) at the time, decided that the whole thing needed to be swept under the rug and made to go away, at least until some blogger got a hold of it.

    Would that count as poor judgement? What if it was published during his oft-delayed Congressional hearings? Funny that State aggressively punishes some extramarital fooling around while ignoring other, er, well-documented cases.

    Or would the State Department once again excuse the act itself and instead punish the person who made the act public, claiming THAT was the example of poor judgement, the crime of not hiding State’s dirty laundry at a sensitive time?

    Remember Rule No. 1 of Fight Club at State: It is poor judgement to talk about Fight Club.


    (And before everyone gets all wound up over the photos posted, would you please first consider the point here, that judgement as contained in the acts pictured is the issue, not harvesting them from around the Internet where they already exist and reposting them here. For those too self-righteous to get it (oh, they’re colleagues ya’all!), the other point is that the State Department excuses all sorts of behavior when it wants to for people it likes or who are connected, and then hauls out the bully-bat of “poor judgement” when it is trying to stretch to justify firing someone they don’t like because of a blog. Thank you.)

    Also, Secret Service Agents abroad: always remember to pay your prostitutes to avoid undue hassle. Generous tips are encouraged; after all, they had to f*ck losers like you.



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  • Recent Comments

    • teri schooley said...

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      Yeah. So what offends more? That the Secret Service and assorted armed forces guys bought prostitutes, or that the pros actually expected to be paid? (We’re Americans – we don’t have to pay for this.) Funny how the only reason the incident came to light was because some cheap-ass SOB didn’t want to pay for services rendered. People at State can apparently murder someone without losing their jobs and our brave boys in Okinawa regularly rape the local girls with nary a Congressional hearing held. Torture at various rendition sites and overseas prisons? That was just a few bad apples.

      Seems to me the lesson Congress is teaching our various foreign services is that wanton rape, murder and pillaging is fine by them, but the paying for sex thing – that is clean out of the question. Priorities, people.

      04/18/12 2:05 PM | Comment Link

    • State’s Secret Baghdad BJ | Washington Free Beacon said...

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      04/18/12 3:32 PM | Comment Link

    • Meloveconsullongtime said...

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      The VIP sounds to me like Brett McGurk, but I have no firsthand knowledge of the VIP’s identity (if any) nor of any of his private or public whores.

      04/18/12 3:38 PM | Comment Link

    • Peter Van Buren Says “Blowjob” to Hillary Clinton | emptywheel said...

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      [...] he didn’t say blowjob. He said this, in a post pointing out the State Department’s rather inconsistent evaluation of what does and does not [...]

      04/18/12 3:41 PM | Comment Link

    • Administrator said...

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      You can read my post about Hillary here http://wemeantwell.com/blog/2011/10/21/hillary-clinton-disgraces-america/ and judge for yourself whether it is “poor judgment” like the State Dept says or something else.

      Then, decide among all of the instances I have discussed who should be fired, because the State Dept is seeking to fire only me.

      My point is the State Dept has standards that rise and fall as needed to reach a pre-determined outcome.

      04/18/12 4:00 PM | Comment Link

    • john brown said...

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      Peter, FYI: “The Secretly Serviced and Pubic (no typo) Diplomacy”
      http://johnbrownnotesandessays.blogspot.com/2012/04/on-secretly-serviced-daily-news-phrase.html

      04/18/12 5:42 PM | Comment Link

    • Ralph said...

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      Peter,

      Amb. Hill isn’t dressed as a Secret Service guy, he was dressed that Halloween as his security detail lead, Derek DelaCruz.

      Ralph

      04/18/12 5:57 PM | Comment Link

    • lorita said...

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      fantastic…keep ‘em coming…(no pun intended). the system is corrupt…THAT is poor judgement.

      04/18/12 6:18 PM | Comment Link

    • Pete said...

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      I needed a good laugh and you provided it. I know what you mean since I am a civil servant USG employee. SES and all sorts of senior officers get away with breaking laws, inappropriate behavior, etc . . . while the lower ranking officers, get crucified for small offenses if they are not the chosen anointed and privileged ones.

      04/18/12 6:54 PM | Comment Link

    • More Scandal? Foreign Service Officer Claims High-Ranking State Dept. Official Engaged In Sex Acts Atop Iraqi Palace | Being 1732 said...

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      04/18/12 7:11 PM | Comment Link

    • jhoover said...

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      There is more to come and uncover about Secret Service prostitution

      04/18/12 7:12 PM | Comment Link

    • jhoover said...

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      Members of the Secret Service wait for President Barack Obama in March 2011. At least 11 agents and at least 10 military personnel are under investigation for bringing prostitutes to a hotel in the Colombian resort of Cartagena whereObama was attending a summit last weekend. (AFP Photo/Brendan Smialowski)

      04/18/12 7:19 PM | Comment Link

    • CIA Broomcloset said...

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      You forgot to mention the analysts at State who “fell off the roof” before the We Meant Well Iraq Invasion.
      We meant well. haha

      04/18/12 7:19 PM | Comment Link

    • Roger Keller said...

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      There should be a male stripper with this Hillary B-tch that’s for sure.

      04/18/12 7:33 PM | Comment Link

    • What is Poor Judgement? | We Meant Well – Peter Van Buren | BLOG vip said...

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      04/18/12 8:55 PM | Comment Link

    • Maude said...

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      I rarely comment on SoS Clinton because I despise her. She is, to put it politely, gauche.
      I always wonder what persona will be on view in each situation.
      The beer drinking is crass. I hope someone higher up spoke to her about this.
      She drank neat bourbon on the campaign plane in 2008. A reporter wrote that she had a couple of cases of her favorite brand of bourbon on the plane. Sigh.
      We can wait and see what stupid thing she does next.
      To quote Jimmy Carter, a fish rots at the head.

      04/18/12 8:56 PM | Comment Link

    • Foreign Service Officer Claims High-Ranking State Dept. Official Engaged In Sex Acts Atop Iraqi Palace | Being 1732 said...

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      04/18/12 9:22 PM | Comment Link

    • » If this is “into the light” - Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion said...

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      04/18/12 9:45 PM | Comment Link

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    • So Be It said...

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      Meh. Put up or shut up. Post the video or zip it.

      And BTW, Hillary was in Colombia, the country. There are two “O”s in Colombia, no pun intended. Columbia with a “u” is a crappy college in New York. A FSO should know the difference.

      04/18/12 10:26 PM | Comment Link

    • Iraq snapshot (C.I.) | thecommonillsbackup said...

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      [...] State Dept Foreign Service Officer — has posted about alleged sexual misconduct in Iraq.  At his website, Van Buren asks: What if a video existed that showed a prominent State Department VIP on the roof of the [...]

      04/19/12 12:26 AM | Comment Link

    • JeanLouise said...

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      What did you expect, Pete? In what line of work can you post criticism of your boss online and not expect to be fired? Take responsibility, dude.

      04/19/12 2:20 AM | Comment Link

    • Administrator said...

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      Hard to say how much more responsibility I can assume since I am placing my name on my opinions, speaking truth to power and doing it all at risk of my job. That sounds like a hell of a lot more responsibility than placing semi-anonymous comments here and there.

      04/19/12 2:50 AM | Comment Link

    • Administrator said...

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      Never went to an east coast school, so forgive me my misspelling. Didn’t know you Columbia people were so sensitive.

      04/19/12 2:51 AM | Comment Link

    • What is Poor Judgement? | We Meant Well – Peter Van Buren | Vip blog said...

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    • Big plans for re-election! (Cedric) | thecommonillsbackup said...

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    • revenge is back (Rebecca) | thecommonillsbackup said...

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    • BLBeamer said...

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      I thought Columbia was a big river in the Pacific NW.

      04/19/12 4:57 PM | Comment Link

    • Vip blog » Blog Archive » What is Poor Judgement? | We Meant Well – Peter Van Buren said...

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    • البابلي said...

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      نعلة الله عليكم

      04/21/12 1:49 PM | Comment Link

    • Lisa said...

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      BLBeamer,

      Good show! There’s a job in the government for you :) Or perhaps as a prostituta, which is to say the same thing. As the Latin lasses said, “We know nothing”, or words to that effect.

      Oh, and “Show me the MO-NEY!”

      04/22/12 2:18 AM | Comment Link

    • jhoover said...

      34

      Babili,

      بـابــلي

      You trying writing in Arabic to hid yourself looks we got another one would like to be a prostituta…

      04/22/12 7:31 AM | Comment Link

    • عربي شبعان قهر said...

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      ارجو اهداء المقال والكتاب والصور الى المرجعيات المعفنة في السراديب واعني جميع من يدعي انه مرجع اسلامي لاي مذهب يوالي المحتل
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      04/22/12 1:10 PM | Comment Link

    • Lisa said...

      36

      PVB,

      So sorry, when I implied government worker = piruja; I meant, of course, present company excepted. (How gauche of me.)

      I meant the meanies, of course ;)

      04/23/12 4:20 AM | Comment Link

    • TFR#(f%s said...

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      Why all the fuss about a video going around the internet when there isn’t really one at all. I can’t believe how many people are out there claiming that a video exists. And if it did, perhaps it is classified due to the location and anyone in possession or involved with its distribution should be arrested. Peter I agree with you on most issues but Iraq was justified and much needed. I understand that you have an issue with your treatment at State but must everything be wrong or a problem? All of the other things such as drunken parties in Islamic war zones are acceptable. These people were on their own time and Muslims in such places must accept (by Diplomatic agreement)that we will allow our people to have such parties as long as they are kept to the confines of Embassy grounds….you know that Peter so what is the issue? If there is one thing that disgusts me about State it is the fact that they even let liberals through the hiring process. Maybe when we get a conservative Secretary and President all of those mouthy anti Iraq War liberals, GLBTers, and Peace Corps rejects will suddenly go quiet or just go away.

      04/25/12 1:00 AM | Comment Link

    • Lisa said...

      38

      TFR#(f%s (If, indeed, that is your REAL name),

      I’m not sure if you’re teasing about the GLBT’ers … they make for one heckuva party, and that IS what you’re justifying here, right?

      I agree on the Peace Coprs REJECTS … one must actually do a tour in order to have something fascinating and scabrous to share.

      In general, I don’t think you have a handle at all on what it takes for good shindig.

      04/25/12 3:56 AM | Comment Link

    • afghan songs said...

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      America, like every other nation, speaks peace and makes war. In its role as policeman for the world – a role performed spottily, with many arbitrary choices about when to fight – this country cherishes a reputation for peace-keeping. This is why the U.S is in Afghanistan.

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