• Who Guards the Guards?

    June 12, 2013

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    Posted in: Embassy/State, Iraq

    America’s spies– our bad guys who sold secrets to other countries, Ames, the Walkers, Pollard— worked for money. Their motives were straightforward and they clearly, actively sought to trade secrets away for personal gain. They choose secrets such as code ciphers of specific interest and value to the enemy.

    But what about now? The people Obama is/has/will be prosecuting under the Espionage Act (Manning, Drake, Snowden) did not act for money (quite the contrary; all suffered personally for their actions) and instead of informing a foreign power, they sought to inform the American people. That is not spying.

    Our current whistleblowers were all vetted multiple times by the U.S. Government. If Snowden’s publically available bio is true, he was vetted by the Army, the CIA, the NSA and again as an NSA contractor. What happened?

    What happened was conscience, and God bless us all for it.

    History recognizes the need to act on conscience when faced with unconscionable situations. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, writing about Kristallnacht, said “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” The Nuremberg prosecutors reminded the accused that “Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring.” Dr. Martin Luther King, writing from a Birmingham jail cell, said “One may well ask: ‘How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?’ The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that ‘an unjust law is no law at all.'”

    Bradley Manning provided no real aid and comfort to the enemy. Among other horrific events, he exposed what was a war crime to everyone but the U.S. Government as civilians and journalists were machine gunned from the air. He exposed U.S. murder of Iraqi civilians. He shared with the American people exactly what was being done in their name. None of that information was secret for any legitimate reason (it was kept quiet to protect the USG from embarrassment and/or prosecution), and it certainly was not secret to the “enemy;” they knew damn well what we were doing.

    The case is the same with Snowden. He simply told the American people, in much greater detail than the Government wished to reveal, what their own government was doing to them. The NSA spying focused on Americans, and even as the government seeks to justify it the case weakens around them. Indeed, all that surveillance failed to even catch Snowden gathering documents from the inside but we’re supposed to believe it has saved us from terrorism? Once again, the people most informed by the leaked material were the American people, not any imagined generic “enemy.” Indeed, most of the enemy comes from police-state countries where surveillance (and torture, another recent U.S. activity) is routine and overt. They knew damn well what we were doing. Bin Laden stopped using cell phones a decade ago.

    If I could shout into the White House, it would be something like this:

    Your own guards are turning against your surveillance and secrecy. People whom you vetted are being moved into glorious, selfless democratic acts of conscience by your lies and your actions. If the government continues to treat every citizen as a potential terrorist, more and more of them will be moved to act, to uphold their true oath of office— to uphold and protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

    Are you not aware Mr. Obama that one whistleblower, Assange, is living in a foreign embassy for his own protection from you, while another, Snowden, is said to be headed for asylum somewhere abroad for his own safety? During the Cold War and onward, it was American Embassies abroad that provided shelter and asylum to political victims. You can expect more leakers, and by focusing your response on arresting the messengers instead of changing your policies, you will in fact assure it as your legacy.

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    • kyzl orda said...


      “During the Cold War and onward, it was American Embassies abroad that provided shelter and asylum to political victims. You can expect more leakers, and by focusing your response on arresting the messengers instead of changing your policies, you will in fact assure it as your legacy.”

      Yes and look how far we have fallen. Now we ask asylum seekers to please leave our embassies and not jeopardize our relations with whatever country. Instead of people coming to us as a refuge, we have an American looking for asylum. I dont care what the politics are, that is wrong. No one can claim to be pro-life and wish this on a person. This is one of our countrymen. The Abu Ghraib gang caused far more, far more harm to our country’s interests. Yet most of them got off with a pat on the hand; i think only Granier went to jail after serving just a few years. Priorities are fouled

      If we had a system in the government where employees could safely raise concern without fear of retaliation and the system really worked, would we have leaks? There’s a limit to how much bullying people can absorb

      The Daily Show had a segment last night “Good News, You’re Not Paranoid- NSA Oversight” and you have to see it to believe it when NSA Head Clapper is asked during a Congressional hearing in March, yes or no, does the NSA spy on Americans. Watch and hear his reaction he clearly struggles with, “no – not wittingly.”


      06/12/13 6:29 AM | Comment Link

    • kyzl orda said...


      Something else i have been wondering is that recent scandal involving Google and its street maps program where it was faulted for collecting private data on people, was that to share with the NSA? Google got off very, very lightly

      06/12/13 6:31 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      Remember when those bad ol’ Passport Office employees got fired for looking at Obama’s passport file and when those bad ol’ IRS employees got fired for looking at Obama’s tax files? Now Obama knows how we feel.

      Edward Snowden should return home; we need him to testify at Obama’s impeachment hearings.

      06/12/13 10:22 AM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      I said it yesterday, and Ron Paul re-affirmed it today..these motherfuckers will kill him as fast as they possibly can. Only it won’t be out of retaliation. It will be to protect the Intelligence/ MIC Corporatacracy. He knows too much. PERIOD.


      This goes much deeper than you can fathom. A couple of hundred years deep in fact. Catherine Austin Fitt’s defined the Octopus in her book- Dillion Reed and the Aristocracy of Stock Profits. And they almost destroyed her. After she became a HUD undersecretary, she discovered PROMIS, , a database connection software written by Bil Hamilton, who owned Inslaw Inc..

      The DOJ had stole the Promis software from Hamilton and he sued, but it evolved and was used by the CIA, the DOD, IRS and eventually ended up in the hands of foriegn governments and even the Russian mob. Michael Ruppert discovered it too, even tried to prove Osama binLaden even had it …

      This story is so big, and intermingled with Prism, Snowden, the USG, Congress, the MIC, Drones, the CIA, DOD etc etc it would makes Jason Bourne look silly. youbetcha they want to kill him. Ask Michael C. Ruppert, and Catherine Austin Fitts. Of course, Gary Webb knew too..but he was murdered. Which is a whole nuther story, of which, his investigative journal was published in the San Jose Mercury newspaper, and he was killed shortly thereafter…after all..he discovered the CIA’s drug running and the Contra connection. Which led to the use of PROMIS to track drugs in HUD housing. Hence Fitt’s discovery.
      My my my..what a tangled web..unfortunately, it’s true.


      Ruppert was chased for the same thing Snowden will be. They know too much.

      If you have the guts, Fitt’s book details the history of all that has evolved today. And it will open your eyes to the depth of corruption at the Oligarchy level. I guarantee..you’ll never be the same…
      Same with Michael Ruppert…

      And now, Snowden knows the same programs he was privy to, will be used to find him too. There’s no place to hide in this world now. Except a foreign embassy. After all, Jullian Assange knows this all too well.

      And finally, someone hit it on the nailhead. The NSA should be on trial..along with BoozAllen..the Carlyle Group…and many others. Cause it’s a BIG CLUB..and we ain’t in it.

      06/12/13 2:47 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      06/12/13 2:49 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      and then..there’s Arthur. God bless the truth, no matter how brutal.


      06/12/13 3:01 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      From Sergei Eisenstein’s “Ivan the Terrible, Part Two”, you can watch the NSA and DHS dancing at 0:58 to 1:01 (hours and minutes):


      06/12/13 4:50 PM | Comment Link

    • jim@ rangeragainstwar said...


      It’s a strange ,wacky world.
      We can’t even define who the enemy happens to be , nor can we delineate a clearly defined battlefield.
      If Manning aided the enemy then show the court which battle field that happened to occur upon.
      It’s all squishy and won’t nail to the wall, and it’s hard to believe that it’s even reached the trial stage.
      Usually show trials are wham , bam , thank you mam with a quick firing squad.
      Well maybe next time.

      06/12/13 4:58 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      on a side note..you can bet the Big Club doesn’t want this shit to get out..and they’re doing everything they can to squelch it in the bud..by using the NSA to spy on returning vets…

      quote:”“I’ve had veterans returning from Afghanistan tell me that they passed by the opium fields and it shocked me that the U.S. government was helping the Afghans plant that stuff,” Whitehead said.”unquote

      youbetcha..helping the Afghans plant opium. right Whudda thunk?


      ummmm, I’d bet ole Michael Hasting’s head is exploding about now.

      Along with the rest of the Carlyle Big Club.

      After all, all the dots are starting to connect. Especially the Big Drug Club, the NSA, and Prism.

      And THEY know it. yessireebob. The U.S.S Titanic is sinking fast and all these schmucks can do is rearrange the deck chairs. Priceless.

      06/12/13 5:17 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      ya know, whatta ya bet that ole CIA “annex” at the Benghazi embassy, wasn’t used just to run guns.

      I’ve got $1k that says ..well, you can draw your own conclusions. But my crystal ball is blindingly clear today.

      06/12/13 5:28 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      “whatta ya bet that ole CIA “annex” at the Benghazi embassy, wasn’t used just to run guns.”

      Other uses which immediately come to mind:

      1. Torture
      2. Drugs
      3. Prostitutes

      What am I leaving out?

      06/12/13 5:50 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      4. Whisky for the CIA’s Muslim terrorist friends who can’t legally buy it under their own countries’ laws.

      06/12/13 5:55 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      Don’t cry for me, Argentina. When the PLUTOCRACY PRISM state is complete, our middle class won’t be the only thing disappeared.

      “When you construct a massive surveillance apparatus, history tells us that it will be brought to bear not just on ‘the enemy,’ but on the people who threaten society’s power structure on whoever exists at the political margins, whether it’s Martin Luther King Jr. or some Occupy Boston protesters. It’s not some Orwellian abstraction. It’s America’s history and America’s recent history.” – Chris Hayes

      06/12/13 6:00 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      5. Teenage boys abducted to serve as sex slaves for the CIA’s Muslim terrorist friends? As an alternative to Guantanamo? Washed down with contraband whisky of course.

      06/12/13 6:00 PM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...


      Chew on this boys: U.S. Ambassador to Belgium Denies Accusations He Had Sex With Minors

      06/12/13 6:21 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      Great. Just when I think I’ve got it covered..you guys upset the apple cart. 🙂

      Well, in that case, I guess CARTEL sums it up succinctly. You betcha.. a big ole ruling class Cartel. Drugs, sex, guns, subversion, spying, murder,..geeezus..this would make a great movie… except..no one would believe it. And THAT is what they are counting on.

      06/12/13 6:12 PM | Comment Link

    • jo6pac said...


      pitchfork said…

      Thanks and to everyone if you haven’t read Pitts book please do so.

      Inslaw even Hussein Assad of Iraqi had that software to track his enemies of course it was tracking him at the same time by book door installed by cia. That brought back this name edwin meese 3.

      #16 I saw that today, gee what wonderfully former family you were a member of;)

      06/12/13 10:50 PM | Comment Link

    • Eric Hodgdon said...


      Very well constructed argument, Peter.

      The enemy is clearly visible and we know exactly where they are.

      Self-Determination and Inherent Rights compel action be taken against the common enemy.

      I’m referring to that which comes before government, the People themselves. The People need no authorization, but are compelled to act for their safety and security against the common enemy.

      Peter, you opened with the inescapable justifications and resultant requirements for such extra-legal actions as is, and has been, needed. What lacks is massive personnel and personal will to carry them out.

      Such that the USA has been in operation for 226 years, carries no weight to consider further in restricting what must be done next. Entertaining alternatives to repair faults exposed lends little and says much to indicate they will never work.

      People, the choices you make determines how long the suffering continues, the crimes spread, and the deaths piled up.

      06/13/13 6:05 AM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...


      06/13/13 6:45 AM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      From the FP article PVB cited:

      “Republican Congressman Ed Royce, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, issued a statement Monday saying he was “appalled” at the alleged misconduct. “The notion that any or all of the cases contained in news reports would not be investigated thoroughly by the Department is unthinkable,” he said.”

      In other words the trick is to keep State Department crimes out of the news in the first place.

      06/13/13 7:16 AM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      Further re “U.S. ambassador to Belgium Howard Gutman has been named as the diplomat accused of soliciting “sexual favors from both prostitutes and minor children”, what ages were the boys he buggered? Maybe he thought they looked older than 15?

      06/13/13 7:55 AM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      Maybe he thought it’s not prostitution if the State Department pays for it?

      06/13/13 7:56 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      If Kerry means it when he says as a former prosecutor he will keep digging to get to the bottom of the allegations about DS corruption, that’s a lot of dirt: ‘Department intakes of new . . . officers since the hiring surge a decade ago have reportedly been flawed, with ‘mitigation’ of troubling histories including criminal matters, wrote the team leader.’

      That explains a lot, Mr. Bauer.

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2340911/Revealed-State-Department-employs-TWO-THOUSAND-agents-criminal-records-checkered-backgrounds.html#ixzz2W5warcU0
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      06/13/13 11:31 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      “A State Department security official in Beirut allegedly “engaged in sexual assaults” against foreign nationals working as embassy guards. The security official, the Office of the Inspector General says, was also accused of committing “similar assaults during assignments in Baghdad.”

      Hell, even Homer Simpson could figure this out.

      06/13/13 12:04 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      Google Ambassador Howard Gutman + pedophile = over half a million results.

      06/13/13 1:06 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      If every past and present State employee (including DS agents) wrote a letter to prosecutor Kerry describing illegal acts by DS agents they have witnessed or experienced – excluding the cases of paying prostitutes in Bangkok just to avoid crashing the system (boys will be boys) Kerry’s security team won’t be a bunch of bald liars.

      06/13/13 2:09 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      DOS sexual escapades aside, sooprise sooprise sooprise…Ron Paul hit it on the nailhead.

      quote:”On Saturday, Steve Clemons, foreign policy blogger and editor at large at The Atlantic, said in a series of tweets that he overheard four intelligence officials at Dulles airport say that both the reporter and the leaker in the NSA scandal should be “disappeared,” the Huffington Post reported Saturday.”unquote

      Should be… ahem.. “disappeared”. right.

      What makes you think he’s still free?

      Folks, in effect, what we see here is living proof of the pond scum mentality that fills the cesspool known as the NSA. Even if he is still free, the mere fact these scumbags “suggest” assassinating both Snowden.. AND Greenwald, gives living testimony to the depth these sub-human USG wannabe murderers have sunk.

      Anyone who thinks this government is still legitimate..raise your hand.

      btw, to those SubZero IQ “intelligence” officials who publicly called for murdering a whistle blower and a journalist who works for the Guardian…I have a suggestion for ya…

      Given you publicly announced to the entire world…”I AM FUCKING STUPID”.. ya’ll might consider taking the 10 Steps to DE-STUPIFICATION plan. Not to mention..hiring an attorney. Your gonna need one. Of course, considering your skull cavity is filled with jello, …well, good luck with that. All I know is you just went down as numero uno in the annuls of GREAT MOMENTS IN MONUMENTAL STUPIDITY. Congratulations

      06/13/13 4:03 PM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...


      People who joke about disappearing other people should be fired unequivacably. That is advocating murder. That mentality has no place in a democratic system. Make them live in a former concentration camp or gulag. Have them work on a UN project to identify body remains in the former Yugoslavia or Rwanda or somewhere. If you can joke about it, you are not fit to hold a public position.

      Regarding the security official engaging in assaults against foreign nationals in Beirut and Baghdad, that’s another case of cover up, especially favoured rising star syndrome, which some in the Department have a bad case of. Noticed 2 things about the Daily Mail article:

      1. Eric Boswell is involved – wasnt he supposed to have resigned?
      2. Patrick Kennedy is at it again. He’s mentioned as stopping the investigation against the Ambassador


      06/13/13 8:17 PM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...


      That Daily Mail article is the one Rich had sourced

      06/13/13 8:18 PM | Comment Link

    • John Smith said...


      I’ve read two articles on this site and both have mentioned the Holocaust within the first few paragraphs. Even if you have something worthwhile to say, you have completely discredited yourself by comparing the persecution of a few “whistleblowers” in controversial cases of national security or the NSA having access to millions of American’s call logs to the systematic genocide of millions of Jews. Pathetic.

      06/14/13 1:00 AM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      There’s nothing in this article about the Holocaust. Kristallnacht was in 1938, several years before the systmatic murders began, and before the war began. There was a lot more to object to in Nazi Germany than the Holocaust.

      06/14/13 7:23 AM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...


      My comment is if you are holding a public position and joking about ‘disappearing’ someone, you shouldnt be holding such a position. I have had relatives ‘disappeared’ in a gulag system. The point has to do with remarks made by people who should know better and really arent different than nazis if they will advocate the same tactics against their countrymen, whoever they are

      06/14/13 8:26 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      USA Today: “Diplomatic security agents learned that James Combs, a senior diplomatic security agent in Baghdad, was having an extramarital affair with a subordinate and had numerous affairs with men over a 30-year span without the knowledge of his wife. This presented “counterintelligence concerns,” but the investigation never reached a conclusion.”

      Bauer, you dirty dog.

      06/14/13 10:58 AM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      “James Combs, a senior diplomatic security agent in Baghdad, was having an extramarital affair with a subordinate and had numerous affairs with men over a 30-year span without the knowledge of his wife”

      Reminds me of this scene from Kubrick’s “Spartacus”:


      06/14/13 11:57 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      Meanwhile back in the “real” world, can’t wait for the UN slide show by SecState Kerry showing the world the chemical weapons used by Syria. If Curveball is the source of this intelligence, let US just pull the plug on the CIA, as well as the NSA.

      06/14/13 3:03 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...


      Mr Bauer wrote: “If Curveball is the source of this intelligence, let US just pull the plug on the CIA”

      I disagree with your stated condition of contingency. Around fifty years ago, George Kennan (friend of a friend of mine) – the author of the Cold War “Containment” policy – was already saying the CIA ought to be abolished. The CIA never ought to have existed in the first place.

      06/14/13 3:12 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      quote:”The CIA never ought to have existed in the first place.”unquote

      I’m pretty sure the Plutocracy would disappear you for that. 🙂

      on a side note, not everyone is as dumb as jello.


      sooprise sooprise sooprise. BoozAllenHamilton is a crook..naaaaaaw..really?

      whudda thunk.

      my my my…Feinstein’s head would explode if she saw that, if not calling for disappearing the author. Unfortunately, he didn’t go far enough. How bout investigating The Carlyle Group, hmmmm?

      After all, all one has to do is look what they own, BoozAllen notwithstanding, and WHO owns stock in them. OF course, if you really did that…you might begin to see the BIG CLUB and we can’t have that now can we? right.

      Unfortunately, everyone in the parallel universe of Subzero IQ simply doesn’t get it.

      When Snowden gave the planet this information, he didn’t just expose the NSA for what it is..he exposed the UNDERBELLY of the beast..and THEY know it. And now, the 800lb gorilla in the room is fucking pissed, and will USE their BIG CLUB to murder anyone who sheds light on their world wide
      fraud. After all, let’s get real. IF, you owned an Investment company, that had access to a system run by another company you owned(BoozAllen) whereby, at the click of a mouse, you could monitor every single “buy”/”sell” option of every stockbroker on the planet…well, I think you get my drift. Personally, I submit Plausible Deniability is about to get a trashing.

      However, there’s ANOTHER 800lb gorilla in the room, and very few other than King George 111 gets it. Folks, for all the bullshit the USG and NSA is spreading about this entire debacle, there is one real UNDENIABLE fact. The secret FISA court is issuing the very thing the Founders vehemently repelled by virtue of the 4th and 5th Amendments…GENERAL WARRANTS. And that my friends is what this surveillance crap is about in reality. Meanwhile, King George is laughing his fucking ass off.


      06/14/13 6:38 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      Truth has Consequences:

      “I suppose in a technical sense (Snowden’s action) was criminal. But set against the larger crime that is being committed by the state—when you have a system by which criminals are in power, criminals on Wall Street who are able to carry out massive fraud with no kinds of serious repercussions or investigation, criminals who torture in our black sites, criminals who carry out targeted assassinations, criminals who lie to the American public to prosecute pre-emptive war which under international law is illegal—if you’re a strict legalist, which apparently professor Stone is, what you’re in essence doing is protecting criminal activity. I would argue that in large sections of our government it’s the criminals who are in power.”

      06/15/13 4:06 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      quote:”I would argue that in large sections of our government it’s the criminals who are in power.”unquote


      That’s like saying I would argue that the sun rises in the east. :)I doubt you would have an opponent, unless he’s a complete fool.

      But let me ask you something. When the time comes, and it will, when the evidence is so overwhelming that only fools who’ve suspended reality dispute the facts, what then?

      Actually, I believe we are being “set up” as I type. In regards to what I suggested yesterday, that the NSA surveillance thing is a subterfuge to hide the financial Cartel’s REAL use of Prism, I believe some other people are beginning to ask questions, that are causing certain heads in the Plutocracy to explode. I submit, that should certain revelations come to light that this possibility is indeed true..I do believe this could cause a meltdown of civil obedience in biblical proportions..and THEY know it. Hence, an immediate campaign of smear, disinformation, character attacks and even information removal from the internet and anything the can do to divert this thought has began in earnest.
      Before I surreptitiously “suggested” a connection between the Carlyle Group and the Prism program, I did a search, and didn’t find one single connection on the net. Today, in my limited time, there were a half dozen, with one example suggesting this is precisely why Congress has been kept in the dark …

      ..quote:”This is one of the reasons why it’s kinda nice that Congress has been kept in the dark about the scope of the NSA’s leaks because many of them are investors and shareholders in both Sony and Microsoft stock … *LOL* Betting on both horses is way to hedge ones bets, but what if they had insider information in the form of internal Sony dirt — a gift from the NSA to influence their vote on a defense spending bill?!? Then you can really hedge your bets, and everybody knows not all of the above-the-law and above-the-fray elites are get busted for insider trading and forced into resigning. Especially not one who sits on a Seriously Important Committee(TM). Only those who are expendable, replaceable, and of no real significance or consequence.”


      Insider information? naaaaaaaaaaw..really?
      whudda thunk.

      06/15/13 9:06 PM | Comment Link

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