• Feinstein, Rogers: War on Terror a Huge Failure

    December 7, 2013

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    Posted in: Afghanistan, Libya, Syria

    The truth finds a way, whether you want to believe it or not.

    The terrorism threat against the United States is increasing and Americans are not as safe as they were a year or two ago, the leaders of the House and Senate intelligence committees, Senator Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Mike Rogers, said.

    Feinstein: “There are more terrorist groups than ever, with more sophisticated and hard-to-detect bombs. There is huge malevolence out there.”

    Rogers: “The job is getting more difficult because al-Qaeda is changing, with more affiliates around the world — groups that once operated independently but have now joined with al-Qaeda.”

    Now, to be clear, both Feinstein and Rogers were attempting to make the case that the U.S. needs more NSA spying to combat these threats. Rogers was blunt: “We’re fighting amongst ourselves here in this country about the role of our intelligence community… And so we’ve got to shake ourselves out of this pretty soon and understand that our intelligence services are not the bad guys.”

    But, but…

    Despite the lawmakers’ intention, the truth is more obvious. 9/11 happened twelve years ago. In between that day and this today, we have seen the dismantling of our Constitution via the Patriot Act and its secret interpretations by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Court, the turning of companies like Google into tools of the national security state, the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, torture, rendition, secret prisons, global drone and special ops wars, indefinite imprisonment at Guantanamo, military intervention in Libya, bin Laden and a endless string of al Qaeda “leaders” killed, the failure to support the Arab Spring, creation of a stasis of grinding death in Syria and the rest of the horrors and abominations committed by these United States. Add in the incalculable deaths and costs, the domestic army of disabled veterans, the gutting of our economy and the entrenchment of the military-industrial monster, the elevation of security theatre at our airports, the irradiation of the mail, militarization of our police and the thousand daily cuts of a metastasized bureaucracy, all in the name of “fighting terror.”

    And none of that is enough.

    In fact, as stated by Feinstein and Rogers, somehow despite all that, things are actually worse. Al Qaeda, once a regional player, now is a global franchise. The fuel of terrorism– hatred, fear and opposition to the U.S. and its policies abroad– creates more terrorists. Indeed, as the two intelligence committee chairs are clear in pointing out, we are less safe now than then.


    We are a stupid, violent people. America is indeed an exceptional nation, exceptional in that it exists in a bubble, emerging only to lash out at others. Inside the bubble, rational thought and reasoned discussion have ceased, the air sucked out of them. Any attempt at such actions is met either by deflection (“oh, let’s not talk politics here at the office/party/election debates”) or polemics. Finger pointing– it’s the Republicans! No, it’s the Democrats at fault! is both a convenient way to tamp down debate and to create the appearance of debate while having none. We have simply stopped thinking.

    Having stopped thinking, we fall into the comfort zone of repeating things like a mentally disabled child happy to spend hours walking in circles. Not quite for comfort, not quite for safety, just simply because it is what we were doing and so we keep doing it. We convince ourselves that the answer to failed policy is to keep repeating that policy. We ignore the empirical evidence of our failure– there it is people, the things done to make us safer have not made us safer– to twist logic into meaning we must keep doing what has already failed.

    Does that make sense? If it does, forget about a career in Washington.

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  • Recent Comments

    • Rich Bauer said...


      “Feinstein: “There are more terrorist groups than ever, with more sophisticated and hard-to-detect bombs (like pressure cookers). There is huge malevolence out there.”


      Thank you for chronicling our descent into madness. Suggest you make a hard copy of all your posts and bury them in your backyard so that thousands of years from now archeologists from another planet may learn how “intelligent” life on earth that didn’t mean well destroyed itself.

      12/7/13 8:18 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      quote“Feinstein: “There are more terrorist groups than ever, with more sophisticated and hard-to-detect bombs…”unquote

      Admits one of the leaders of the largest terrorist group on the planet.

      quote:”There is huge malevolence out there.”unquote

      Oh really? You finally noticed how I feel. How nice. Now eat me Senator Pond Scum.

      quote:”Rogers: “The job is getting more difficult because al-Qaeda is changing, with more affiliates around the world — groups that once operated independently(snip) have now joined with al-Qaeda.”unquote

      Yes, we know Senator Schmuck. You joined them in Syria via Benghazi. So, what else is new?

      Peter, your post pretty well sums it up. This part should be engraved on the USA’s headstone…

      Rest in Peace(hahaha)
      Death due to Madness

      “We are a stupid, violent people”

      12/8/13 10:15 AM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...


      Feinstein and company are a smoke screen for wars that have proven to be cash cows:

      “Generals, Admirals live large on taxpayer dollar”

      “Top Officers’ quarters are their castles”

      “Generals live like Kings”

      *Links 1-3 are a repost courtesy another commentator who initially discovered these and deserves the credit

      12/8/13 8:28 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      12/9/13 2:13 AM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      Rich Bauer said…
      “You’ve gone and hurt their feelings.”

      Precisely. And as usual, emptywheel breaks it down to the quantum level:


      Look at “Argots” comment @10. Nothing like starting off the day with a bout of gut splitting laughter.

      My reply is @19

      Rich said:

      “Well, I hope you’re satisfied.”

      Like a Fox after an hour in the hen house.

      12/9/13 3:40 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      “The NSA is feeling bad, beaten down.”

      Yes, yes, the NSA doesn’t like it when they are being watched.

      12/9/13 3:59 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      If Congress is serious about cracking down on domestic spying it should create an independent agency that citizens can submit requests to determine if the NSA, etc has recorded their private communications.

      12/9/13 4:06 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      Rich, while I agree with you, even with a “new agency”, a FOIA request, just as it is now, would be exempted by National Security concerns. After all, we are all potential “terrorists” now.

      As to NSA feeling down and all…fuck em. I hope they drown in their own vomit.

      12/9/13 6:41 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...


      ps..about Congress being “serious”.

      Like…you gotta be kidding. They insult Ringling Brothers.

      12/9/13 6:44 PM | Comment Link

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