• Washington Post Continues War on Democracy

    February 2, 2014

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    Posted in: Democracy

    Hagiographer to the stars “newspaper” the Washington Post continues its war on democracy, this shot fired by columnist Walter Pincus in support praise adulteration of the National Security Agency.


    Pincus starts out showing he obviously can’t handle his growing miasma of hallucinations:

    Should the United States engage in secret, covert or clandestine activity if the American public cannot be convinced of the necessity and wisdom of such activities should they be leaked or disclosed?

    To intelligence professionals, that’s a bizarre question. The answer is that the public’s opinion shouldn’t matter, because espionage, clandestine intercepts of intelligence and covert acts carried out by the United States and other governments are often, by their nature, dirty and mostly illegal operations where they are carried out.



    OK, sure, people’s will in a democracy doesn’t matter, people should not be concerned about what is done in their name, and people should not be concerned about intelligence activities that may harm them or “their” nation. Clear enough Walt.

    Pincus goes on:

    The prime reason for secrecy is that you don’t want the targets to know what you are doing. But often in democracies, another reason is that you don’t want your citizens to know what their government is doing on their behalf to keep them secure, as long as it’s within their country’s law.



    Winner! That is exactly right, people in democracies should definately not know what the government is doing. Just sit back with the teevee and trust our Uncle Big Brother. Well, don’t we all feel better now?

    As for “their country’s law” making things nice and legal, one may note that “their country’s law” in the last few years made torture, kidnapping, indefinite detention, assassination, drone killings of wedding parties and children, as well as the establishment of the 21st century’s first offshore penal colony at Guantanamo legal. If the president does it, it’s legal, yes? Now that is a bit awkward, given that Pincus’ newspaper brought down the president who said that.

    Never mind that “law” at various times in history has also made human slavery, genocide, apartheid and other such nasties perfectly legal. See, it’s a Catch-22 Walter, if it is the government that decides what is “legal” then everything the government may choose to do becomes legal.

    But Pincus is not done slandering democracy yet. Speaking of the presidential commission that recommended changes to the NSA’s worldwide spying:

    The panel said a collection effort should not be initiated “if a foreign government’s likely negative reaction” to it being revealed “would outweigh the value of the information likely to be obtained.”



    Obviously hung over when he wrote this, Pincus should check out the phrase “risk versus gain” on Wikipedia, though likely he still peruses 40 year old smut paperbacks for his “research.” Everything in the world is a balance of risk and gain. Perhaps Pincus could elaborate on what was gained from say tapping into NATO ally Andrea Merkel’s personal cell phone versus the potential damage to U.S.-German relations. Or the impact of U.S. political capital lost in return of whatever was harvested by the NSA from intercepts from NGOs such as the World Health Organization, UNICEF and Medecins Sans Frontiers.

    You can read the whole article if you care to spit up your breakfast, though the comments section is actually worth a look. If you do not care to read it, I’ll just hand over a short summary: Walter Pincus is given space in a major newspaper to write that the NSA should be able to do whatever it wants at whatever cost to the United States and you, Citizen, should just remain ignorant and shut up about it. Yo, this is Pincus, out!



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    • pitchfork said...

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      quote:”See, it’s a Catch-22 Walter, if it is the government that decides what is “legal” then everything the government may choose to do becomes legal.”unquote

      Henry 8th would have hired this schmuck in a NY second. Peter, you hit it on the nail head. In reality, this is precisely the issue at hand. A Supranational sovereign simply enacts what ever “law” it wants, and it becomes LEGAL, even if they declare the right to disembowel and quarter you, and distribute your parts across the land while impaling your head on a pike in front of the White house. And WHO, just WHO can do anything about it? After all..it’s the “law”.
      In fact..it’s called LEGAL IMPERIALISM. Direct care of Henry 8th care of the Roman emperors care of the Chinese dynastys.

      quote: “Legal doctrines precede, accompany and follow the expansion and consolidation of empire for several reasons.Legality is really an extension of imperial conquest by other means. A state of constant warfare raises the cost of imperial maintenance. Force, especially in imperial democracies undermines the sense of civic virtue, which the rulers and citizens claim to uphold. Maintaining ‘law and order’ in the conquered nations requires a legal system and doctrine to uphold imperial rule, giving the facade of legitimacy to the outside world , attracting collaborator classes and individuals and providing the basis for the recruitment of local military, judicial and police officials.”unquote

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/legal-imperialism-and-international-law-legal-foundations-for-war-crimes-debt-collection-and-colonization/5313891

      And THAT is why the USG has refused to sign on to ANY international body that purports the authority to hold USG officials or soldiers accountable for war crimes..TO THE POINT..within 10 days of Congress enacting the AUMF, Senator Jesse Helms introduced the American Soldiers Protection Act.

      quote:The American Service-Members’ Protection Act (ASPA, Title 2 of Pub.L. 107–206, H.R. 4775, 116 Stat. 820, enacted August 2, 2002) is a United States federal law that aims “to protect United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party.”ASPA authorizes the President to use “all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any US or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”. This authorization has led the act to be nicknamed The Hague Invasion Act,[3][4] because the freeing of U.S. citizens by force might be possible only through an invasion of The Hague, Netherlands, the seat of several international criminal courts and of the Dutch government.”unquote

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act
      The Hague Invasion Act. Unbelievable.

      The fact is, the USG had been perpetrating war crimes for decades and knew at some point(notwithstanding chemical warfare in Korea)..SOME authority may try to hold them accountable. That’s why I submit they already knew PRIOR to 9/11 they had to do something. After all they already had something up their sleeve(Iraq)

      Check out the monumental USG hubris at this hearing took place in 2000. whudda thunk

      http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-106shrg67980/html/CHRG-106shrg67980.htm
      (snip)
      quote:Now this extremely dangerous precedent will come back to haunt the United States. NATO commanders and officials may have avoided the indictment this time, but mark my words, the day is not far off when American servicemen and officials will face indictment by an International Criminal Court. And this committee is convened today because of that, because I and other Senators felt the need to assess the threat to United States servicemen and officials posed by this dangerous evolution of so-called international law and to consider a legislative remedy.”unquote

      This dangerous evolution of so-called international law and to consider a legislative remedy. Right. Living proof Legal Imperialism is alive and well.

      Like I keep saying…rule of law? Hahahhaahahahahahahahaha!

      02/2/14 2:35 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...

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      ya know, now that I think about it, what the US education system teaches children about rule of law, our history, rights, etc etc etc…is a goddamned unadulterated fucking lie.

      02/2/14 2:39 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...

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      ps..And that dickhead Walter Pincus does his best to perpetuate the lie.

      02/2/14 2:43 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...

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      Moreover..whoever doesn’t think our current system of governance hasn’t devolved into the same Legal Imperialism of the English Monarchy..raise your hand.

      02/2/14 2:47 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Pincus, poor little Pincus is the poster child for a “major” newspaper that has slipped past its prime. No one cares and even less would pay for this Amazon “past-its-Prime.”

      http://business.time.com/2014/01/31/amazon-prime-price-hike-could-be-a-major-mistake/

      02/2/14 3:01 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      02/2/14 4:51 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...

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      Not to mention Wapo’s connection to CIA via Amazons $600mil deal with these spying cocksuckers. And yes, the CIA DOES spy domestically. When Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) likewise asked Brennan whether the CIA ever does surveillance on U.S. soil, Brennan answered….

      “I can assure the committee that the CIA follows the letter and the spirit of the law,” without directly answering Udall. In other words..yes we do but we follow the letter and spirit of the law…not alluding to which law of course. Yesindeedee..your US Department of Euphemistic Bullshit is hard at work supplying COVER-YOUR-ASS non-answers for the LIARS-R-US crew daily.

      I wonder how these crooks look in a mirror without vomiting.

      02/2/14 4:57 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...

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      02/2/14 5:08 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...

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      And Pitchfork wrote: “Moreover..whoever doesn’t think our current system of governance hasn’t devolved into the same Legal Imperialism of the English Monarchy..raise your hand.”

      I raise my hand. I can think of NO English monarch who has ever claimed or exercised as much personal power as the current President of the United States!

      UNLIKE Obama, even King George III – a relatively powerless monarch who has been unfairly excoriated by generations of Americans – had a noble sense of his own limitations, and knowing his AND his country’s limitations were what made King George III truly noble after all, in ways the vulgarian Emperor Obama has no idea how to be:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YHl_0P2EJ4

      02/2/14 5:23 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...

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      Prophetic words from King George III to John Adams, in 1785:

      “I pray, Mr Adams, that the United States does not suffer unduly from its want of a monarchy.”

      King George’s prophecy almost came true. But ironically, the United States ultimately got a monarchy after all, thus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9zGRIx7-0

      02/2/14 5:39 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Maybe Peter pushed him over the edge:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YZxYUboMzQ

      02/2/14 5:58 PM | Comment Link

    • meloveconsullongtime said...

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      Rich Bauer wrote, “Maybe Peter pushed him over the edge.”

      Hm, maybe, but no, I think Peter’s way of pushing the right kinds of wrong people in DC over the edge, would be more like this, especially in light of his prior blog post:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnMtvuvM_i0

      02/2/14 6:32 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...

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      And Pitchfork wrote: “Moreover..whoever doesn’t think our current system of governance hasn’t devolved into the same Legal Imperialism of the English Monarchy..raise your hand.”

      to which melove wrote:
      “I raise my hand. I can think of NO English monarch who has ever claimed or exercised as much personal power as the current President of the United States!”

      ummmm…wait. wait…..

      then melove wrote:
      “King George’s prophecy almost came true. But ironically, the United States ultimately got a monarchy after all, thus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9zGRIx7-0

      uh…so which is it gonna be melove?

      I rest my case. 🙂

      On a side note, this is one quote I’ve never heard of…

      “I pray, Mr Adams, that the United States does not suffer unduly from its want of a monarchy.”

      So he thought, having only known Monarchy as solution to foster and continue the rights of the ruling class, but after Cromwell beheaded Charles I Stuart, megalomaniac that he was, England was Monarch-less. WHOA!!! People didn’t know what the fuck to do!!!! After all, guess what happens to human beings who’ve been “indoctrinated” for CENTURIES, that some power above their comprehension, rules their LIFE. All they know is if you TRY TO CONFRONT IT..you may be …

      1. Killed immediately.(Law enforcement as we know it today)
      2. Tortured forever in confinement(Guantanomo)
      3. Put to death via whatever “rule of law” is in effect by virtue of LAWFUL IMPERIALISM whether it be drawn, quartered and piked, or vaporized by virtue of LAWFUL IMPERIALISM that claims you are simply collateral damage from an Emperors dictat. ie..Kill tuesdays, or injected with chemicals that may or may not succeed in the efficiency claimed by your captors.

      And this is EXACTLY what I’ve been trying to convey here. What is the difference between our current “president” and any LEGAL IMPERIALISM of the past?

      02/2/14 11:12 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...

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      Rich Bauer said…

      quote”Maybe Peter pushed him over the edge:

      Dean and The Weenies

      ok ok ok ok ok……fuck. (sighing in complete submission to old age idiocy and curmudgeon syndrome)

      Rich…you are priceless.

      02/2/14 11:31 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      American motto circa 2000, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask only to be kept ignorant of what it is doing on your behalf.”

      02/3/14 3:57 PM | Comment Link

    • Bruce said...

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      The Washington Post March to JingObama!

      02/4/14 1:51 AM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...

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      Our unofficial official press

      02/4/14 1:07 PM | Comment Link

    • Eric Hodgdon said...

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      Learn the tools for ending the 69 years of their current MADNESS.

      aeinstein.org/selfLiberation.html

      Turn your property into your own country too.

      02/4/14 2:53 PM | Comment Link

    • pitchfork said...

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      Wapo=CIA marketing department.

      02/4/14 3:04 PM | Comment Link

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