• War Against Islamic State to Last 20 More Years

    July 29, 2015

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    Posted in: Afghanistan, Embassy/State, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Yemen


    General Ray Odierno, the Army’s most senior leader as Chief of Staff, told reporters the fight against Islamic State (IS) will last “10 to 20 years.”

    That means if we take the General at his word, some of the American soldiers who will be fighting IS two decades from now haven’t even been born yet.

    Just a Bit Longer Than Expected

    “In my mind, ISIS is a ten to twenty year problem, it’s not a two year problem,” Odierno said. “Now, I don’t know what level it will be a problem, but it’s a long term problem.” Odierno is pictured above, when he was the commander of all U.S. forces in Iraq, a war which he did not help to win and a war which birthed IS right under America’s nose.

    “The Obama administration has said ‘three to five’ years. I think in order to defeat IS, it’s going to take longer than that,” Odierno said. “This movement is growing right now, and so I think it’s going to take us a bit longer than we originally thought.”

    Apparently in Odierno’s world, “a bit longer” can mean 15 additional years of conflict.

    But Maybe, Sort Of, Possibly, Someone Else will Fight IS for Us

    But don’t worry, the Army isn’t going to win the fight against IS any more than it won the fight in Iraq, or Afghanistan. See, it is not really their job. Odierno again:

    “To defeat IS is not just a military issue. It is an economic issue. It is a diplomatic issue. It is an issue of moderate versus extremists and it is about also, potentially, having the capability to root them out of the places they now hold in Iraq and Syria. Others should do this. I believe the nations in the Middle East need to solve this problem. We should be helping them to solve this problem.”

    Apparently word on how Odierno and the United States are not going to win the war has not yet filtered down to the nations of the Middle East.

    About a year ago, the U.S. formed a make-believe coalition of 62 nations to fight IS. Where are they all now? The U.S. conducts 85 percent of all air strikes against IS, with most of the rest handled by western allies like Canada, France and the UK. None of the Arab ground troops expected ever showed up.

    So far the only two Middle Eastern entities robustly fighting IS are Shiite militias under the control of Iran, and Iran. Neither is particularly interested in American-style goals; their focus is on eliminating a Sunni armed presence in Iraq, including IS, to secure that country as a client state for Tehran. One of those “with friends like these, who needs enemies?” types of situation.

    There have been even fewer takers for the American request to fight IS in Syria. Or in Yemen, Libya and everywhere else IS is making inroads in the wake of clumsy American policy.

    I’ll check back in on the situation after another two decades or so has passed, and update this article.

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  • Recent Comments

    • John Poole said...


      It could be that guys like Odiemo are now brokers for the MICC
      (military,industrial,congressional complex) not actually guys who are in charge of troops. It’s not about fighting wars anymore but instead about supplying weapons to whoever is still doing that sort of old fashioned crappy work.

      07/29/15 7:45 AM | Comment Link

    • teri said...


      “To defeat IS is not just a military issue. It is an economic issue.[…]”

      No kidding. We have a choice. We can either do something about climate changes, toxicity in our water/air/soil, the death of the oceans, increasing lack of fresh water, unsustainable agricultural practices, unsustainable energy practices and its attendant problems, the loss of biodiversity, etc., OR we can spend all our money manufacturing terrorists, manufacturing weapons to fight these “terrorists”, invading other countries, killing other people and stealing their shit. We don’t have money for both. Simple economic fact.

      Our political and corporate leaders have made their choice.

      Good luck living with the consequences.

      07/29/15 8:29 AM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      Odierno to just about anyone: “We can’t promise you boots on the ground but we will sell you boots and weapons to use as you see fit.”

      07/29/15 10:19 AM | Comment Link

    • Bruce said...


      Yeah, the petro won’t run out for a decade Or $O; therefore, General OilDinero & Company Uber ALLES fer ANOTHER 10 ta 20!

      07/29/15 10:46 AM | Comment Link

    • starknakedtruth said...


      “To defeat IS is not just a military issue. It is an economic issue.”

      CORRECTION: It’s an ideological issue. There is no winning.

      07/29/15 10:50 AM | Comment Link

    • Chuck Nasmith said...


      “War Is A Racket”!

      07/29/15 1:07 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      Chuck- and we’re the suckers paying extorted protection money to Pentagon gangsters.

      07/29/15 3:47 PM | Comment Link

    • RICH BAUER said...


      With due deference to mr. bonehead, the US isn’t going to be around in twenty years.

      07/31/15 11:03 AM | Comment Link

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