• Kansas Bans Poor People from Spending Welfare on Cruise Ships

    October 3, 2015

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    Posted in: #99Percent, Economy


    There is a myth that welfare is a good deal, money for nothing.

    Maybe to some it works that way, but in Kansas a family of three gets a maximum of $429 a money in cash, about $35 bucks a person a week. I don’t know, I guess that is one way to live, but not a way too many people want to live.

    But if you are one of the people who thinks that is still too generous, boy has Kansas got some new laws for you.

    Haters Gonna Hate Once Elected

    Kansas welfare recipients will be unable to withdraw more than $25 per day in benefits under a new law sent this week to Governor Sam Brownback by the state legislature. Like most states, Kansas distributes benefits via a debit card.

    The bill also prohibits welfare recipients from spending their benefits at certain types of businesses, including liquor stores, fortune tellers, swimming pools and cruise ships.

    “We’re trying to make sure those benefits are used the way they were intended,” one state representative said. “This is about prosperity. This is about having a great life.”

    Under the new rule, a family receiving the maximum benefit would have to go to the ATM more than a dozen times to get the full benefit, which would be whittled away by an 85 cent fee for each withdrawal after the first one. And since many recipients do not have bank accounts, they will pay an ATM fee on top of that for each withdrawal. If you figure $3 (+.85) a transaction, times 12 pulls, that’s about $46 a month, a de facto reduction of benefits of more than ten percent for no real reason whatsoever.

    The federal welfare reform law of 1996 gave states significant leeway to design their own programs. Missouri, for example, is considering a bill to forbid food stamps from being spent on steak or seafood. No more cheap fish heads for you! But even welfare advocates were taken aback by the $25 daily limit in Kansas, something that has not been implemented in any other state.

    “This provision makes it nearly impossible for a recipient who does not have a checking account to pay rent,” said Liz Schott of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The Kansas provision originally would have limited daily benefits to $60, but that was reduced through an amendment.

    The Questions

    We’re left with some questions.

    I’m pretty sure no one thinks it would be right for welfare recipients to spend benefits designed to feed hungry people at liquor stores, fortune tellers, swimming pools or cruise ships. One wonders, however, at the codification of that into law. Do the Kansas benefit cards even know they are in an ATM on the Love Boat versus one at the grocery store? Is there in fact even one case of a welfare receipt spending his money on a cruise? At a maximum of $429 a month, it seems hard to save up the thousands of dollars cruises cost, especially given the airfare from Kansas to the nearest ocean. And since you can withdraw cash and then spend it on booze or fortune telling if you really want to, isn’t the whole thing pointless?

    The $25 daily limit is also a bit unclear. That amount of money doesn’t get you very far at the grocery store, so it translates into little more than multiple trips each week plus the costs of ATM fees. That alone is at variance with trying to find or work a job, and child care. It does not seem to benefit anyone.

    So what is the point? Well, politics for sure. Nothing says Republican in Kansas apparently like being needlessly mean to poor people. A lot of votes in that hater demographic. Right along side that is the idea that poor people deserve to suffer somehow.

    So, Kansas, why not go for it? Why not just have welfare recipients publicly have to beg for money? Maybe something on TV, like American Idol, where the best beggar as voted on by the home audience gets an extra jar of peanut butter, or, as a special reward, a quick trip to the fortune teller?

    “The magic cards tell me your future looks… very bleak…”

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  • Recent Comments

    • John Poole said...


      I remember faithfully watching Queen for a Day as a child. In retrospect the show was bizarre and very close to what you think would work today with the poor being contestants not just the unfortunate.
      But I also know a little about those debit cards for those on assistance. One young fellow a few of us at a school gave extra help to dropped out before graduation and I often wondered where he went since he was basically homeless. I sure wish I could get the stuff I “loaned” him back but he is just floating out there using that debit card for probably not the best purpose. I wish I could track him via that card use but that would be too Orwellian I guess. I’d like to get in a few words of admonishment for how he showed “appreciation” for our generosity.

      10/3/15 9:18 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      note to self..

      If ever travel across Kansas state border…piss on “You are now entering Kansas” sign.

      Meanwhile, I hope these fucking smug, scum sucking Kansas politicians choke on their next meal.

      quote”Missouri, for example, is considering a bill to forbid food stamps from being spent on steak or seafood.”unquote


      Living proof the Missouri Congress is infested with brain sucking aliens. Steak. Seafood. On food stamps.


      god..you can’t make this shit up.

      10/3/15 11:58 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      Ha! Next thing you know we’ll be told the CIA invests MILLIONS of TAXPAYERS hard earned money, into high tech start ups whose founders then become MILLIONAIRES…

      er…. wait..


      If the inhabitants of the Dumbest Fucking Country on the Planet knew their hard work was making millionaires from their taxes…

      they’d yawn.

      10/3/15 12:05 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      btw..In-Q-Tel is the CIA investment front company that funded the creation of Google. and Facebook..and on and on and on. Who needs backdoors when the entire gamut of social networks and search engines are “owned” by the CIA.

      However, even Orwell would be astounded by this CIA funded company ..to the tune of 11 million fucking dollars.


      but hey… by all means..let’s keep poor people from eating steak.

      Some day, these bastards are going to pay. One way or another.

      10/3/15 12:17 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      btw…here’s the proof In-Q-Tel is a CIA front…

      Direct from the mouth of a CIA official…

      “Finally, the DDI will rapidly identify, transition, and deploy the best digital technologies from the private sector to bolster CIA mission execution in all areas. Building on our experience with In-Q-Tel, the highly successful technology incubator CIA established about 15 years ago, the DDI will expand our direct outreach to commercial digital entities through the establishment of a DDI business portal in Silicon Valley. This team’s mission will be to identify cutting-edge technology that the Agency could use in its highly secure environment, and accelerate the integration of these solutions across our missions. “unquote


      10/3/15 12:26 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      ps… Orwell was a bloody idiot. The Totalitarian State is ALREADY HERE. Unfortunately, Murika hasn’t got a fucking clue.


      10/3/15 12:31 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      Pitch, it’s time to pull the mask off PVB. “Oh no Shaggy! It’s that mean old Mr Cheney who set up this site so he can lure in guys like Poole.” Actually I already know I’m destined for the Soylent Purple conveyor belt. I’ll squirm and kick a lot but I know I’ll be placed on that conveyor destined for the big grinder and shredder.

      Tell us it ain’t so PVB. Please!

      10/3/15 12:41 PM | Comment Link

    • StarkNakedTruth said...


      Orwell was an idiot?

      On the contrary, George Orwell was a modern day prophet and one that no one paid much attention to….other than those of us who recognize and fully understand Orwell’s genius.

      10/4/15 8:14 AM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      Orwell may have sensed that entire nations demand terrestrial authoritarianism when their extraterrestrial authoritarian beliefs began to fray. It is inevitable when belief systems fail.

      10/4/15 10:45 AM | Comment Link

    • Bruce said...


      So that’s (Another THING) What’s WRONG With Kansas!

      10/4/15 1:32 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      Meanwhile, the whole fucking ball of murikan exceptionalism is sinking to the bottom of the cesspool of it’s own making. Witness now the truth…


      10/4/15 6:41 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      ps..at some point in time.. America..needs it’s face plunged into the pool of blood it is creating running across the face of the planet. I only hope it chokes on it.

      But I’m not holding my breath. Meanwhile.. people wonder why certain US citizens are violent enough to gun down helpless victims in a Community College. I submit.. the perpetrators are indoctrinated from birth. Look around. Their government shows them why.

      10/4/15 6:46 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      Our man in Kabul has given America cover by saying militants were firing from the hospital grounds. The surviving medical staff of the bombed facility in Kunduz wants an “independent investigation”. They may be expert physicians but are they clueless about geopolitics.

      10/4/15 8:41 PM | Comment Link

    • Jon Steward said...


      “Like most states, Kansas distributes benefits via a debit card that you can stick into any ATM.”

      My state does not allow SNAP cards to get cash, and I find it hard to believe that any state does. Please check your source for that information.

      SNAP cards can only be used for FOOD. There are a great many things that SNAP cards cannot be used for, like, for example, cups of coffee, newspapers, etc, anything that IS NOT FOOD.

      10/4/15 9:35 PM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...


      You’re right. I meant to say use like a debit card to explain the mechanics. You are absolutely correct only “food” can be legally purchased. However, here in NYC, many smaller stores fraudulently ring up items as food that are actually prohibited.

      10/4/15 9:44 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      John Poole said…

      “Our man in Kabul has given America cover by saying militants were firing from the hospital grounds.”

      Yeah, well that report was originally from AP, who has now retracted it…


      Even if they were…WHO were they firing at..an empty sky??

      sheeezusfuckingchrist. Sometimes I think the brain sucking aliens have taken over the entire planet.

      10/5/15 7:02 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      Peter said:

      quote”However, here in NYC, many smaller stores fraudulently ring up items as food that are actually prohibited.”unquote

      Color me shocked at their brazen criminality.
      insert rolling eye smiley here.

      Meanwhile, our government murders American citizens, and doctors/patients in hospitals. 3 children were among those killed during an HOUR long attack…


      With everything the us military has at their command, to claim “they didn’t know it was a hospital” , is a slap in the face to anyone with one fucking neuron between their ears.

      10/5/15 7:22 AM | Comment Link

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