• Kurd Fighter in Iraq Destroys U.S.-Made Turkish Helo With Russian-Model Missile

    May 16, 2016

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    Posted in: Iraq, Libya, Military

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    There’s no past in Washington. There is no sense that actions taken today will exist past today, even though in reality they often echo for decades.


    A video making the rounds online shows a fighter from a Kurdish group known as Kurdish Workers Party, or, more commonly, the PKK. Using what appears to be a Russian model shoulder fired portable air-to-air missile, the fighter is shooting down a Turkish military, American-made Cobra attack helicopter.

    The attack helo is made by the United States and supplied to NATO ally Turkey;

    The missile is of Russian design but could have been made and could have come from nearly anywhere in Eastern Europe. However, such weapons were flooded into the Middle East after the United States deposed Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi. Many such weapons simply entered the black market when the Libyan army more or less dissolved, but many appear to have been sent into the Middle East by the CIA as part of a broader anti-ISIS strategy. Some say one of the functions of the CIA station overrun in Benghazi was to a facilitate that process.

    Turkey and the United States official consider the PKK a terrorist organization. Many believe the U.S. surreptitiously supplies the PKK weapons in their fight against Islamic State. Turkey is a U.S. NATO ally who is engaged in active war against PKK.

    The U.S. supports Kurdish forces in their fight against Islamic State. The PKK is not officially supported, but anyone who believes the PKK and the “official” Kurdish militias are not coordinated parts of the same entity is either a fool or works in Washington. Or both; the Venn diagram is nearly two overlapping circles.

    The primary motivator of the Kurdish fight against ISIS is to push them out of northern Iraq and Syria to help create an independent nation of Kurdistan. This would dissolve the nation now known as Iraq. One of America’s stated goals is to preserve a unified Iraq.

    The U.S. supports NATO ally Turkey in a fight against Islamic State. Turkey allows the U.S. to fly drones and other aircraft out of its air bases, but also allows ISIS foreign fighters to cross its border into Syria one way, and ISIS oil to reach market by crossing the border the other way.


    If you can understand how all of those things can be simultaneously both true acts of the foreign policy of the United States, you are not a fool and you do not work in Washington. Or both; the Venn diagram is nearly two overlapping circles.




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    • Kurd Fighter in Iraq Destroys U.S.-Made Turkish Helo With Russian-M… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) said...

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      05/16/16 8:07 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      “Some say one of the functions of the CIA station overrun in Benghazi was to a facilitate that process.”

      Naww…really? Geee..whudda thought. Gunnrunning from a Embassy. My goodness.

      sheezuschrist. Next thing you know we’ll find out the Inspector General for the CIA “accidentally” erases his computer file copy of the Senate “torture report”…and THEN, destroys the CD it came from. Accidentally..of course. Like Benghazi was a product of a video gone viral. Insert two rolling eyes smiley here.
      https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-report-on-cia-torture-1429636113023030.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
      fuk. Either these CIA schmucks must think the entire planet has an IQ of ZERO or they really are the Keystone Cops in the flesh.

      “Many believe the U.S. surreptitiously supplies the PKK weapons in their fight against Islamic State. Turkey is a U.S. NATO ally who is engaged in active war against PKK.”

      Which means..if we are supplying them..the PKK is also fighting Turkey..which means..we are supplying both sides against each other. ummmm….

      http://41.media.tumblr.com/8751119ecc337abd097d90f129869152/tumblr_inline_o4i9lbYyyJ1tfg791_500.jpg

      The Lords of War don’t care who buys their arms.

      05/16/16 8:59 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      05/16/16 9:33 AM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...

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      “There’s no past in Washington. There is no sense that actions taken today will exist past today, even though in reality they often echo for decades.”

      Peter, this captures everything in a nutshell. I wish someone would stamp this over any anniversary references to 9/11, especially if the CIA were trying to recruit nutjobs for their own purposes

      05/16/16 11:19 AM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      Come on folks. There are stated goals and closeted goals. The USA has now forgotten which are which. A unified Iraq or a federalized Iraq? Does anyone know or better yet- does anyone care? We turn to Mr. Rumsfeld: There are stated goals, unstated goals, stated unstated goals, unstated stated goals. etc etc. ………….Hell, this is fun!

      05/16/16 7:48 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      What I found odd or certainly didn’t know about such heat seeking shoulder fired weapons was when fired the muzzle sinks instead of rising upwards. Maybe the rear of the launch rises making the front end appear to drop.

      05/16/16 8:03 PM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...

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      “We turn to Mr. Rumsfeld: There are stated goals, unstated goals, stated unstated goals, unstated stated goals. etc etc. ………….Hell, this is fun!”

      Rumsfeld’s bizarre legacy and all his minions still ensconced in the system

      05/17/16 12:02 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      The past is prologue. The US needs ISIS to justify its existence, which is the business of war. God bless Amerika, and pass the ammunition.

      05/17/16 3:56 AM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      And now, as I predicted a couple of weeks ago, Congress has included in its latest NDAA (the military defense budget that not only sets the rapacious Pentagon budget, but allows the pres to kill whomever he wants and to hold any Americans he chooses in indefinite military detention) a clause which requires that young women have to register for the draft.

      Someone’s got to kill all those “enemies” we are creating.

      05/17/16 5:57 AM | Comment Link

    • Links 17/5/2016: Wine 1.9.10, ChaletOS 16.04 | Techrights said...

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      05/17/16 6:18 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      quote”And now, as I predicted a couple of weeks ago, Congress has included in its latest NDAA….a clause which requires that young women have to register for the draft.”unquote
      ya mean…like these young women?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9oerntQ0f8

      I can hear the raucous gutsplitting laughter in the Chinese military women’s barracks as I type. Notwithstanding Iran.

      god I’d kill for a double face palm smiley.

      05/17/16 7:30 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      teri said:
      “quote”Someone’s got to kill all those “enemies” we are creating.”unquote

      If most of the young women I see today, are fodder for our future military.. I’m afraid the only weapon that will work on the enemy is killing them by laughing to death.

      05/17/16 7:38 AM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      And here we are in yet another country distributing arms to random sides (pick a side, any side): Libya. Despite the fact that Libya is under a UN-imposed arms embargo (per our request, but that is SO-O-O yesterday), the US and several other countries are ready to “selectively” provide arms to the Libyan government in their fight against ISIS. That would be the one of three groups claiming to be the legitimate Libyan government, that is. You know, the one WE “recognize” as the legitimate government after we ruined the place, created complete chaos and sent its society to hell.

      You have to love this part of the statement put out by the signatory nations that want to send more weapons into Libya for the sheer breathtaking (and probably unwitting) idiocy and double-speak contained within this one sentence:

      “We will fully support these efforts [to obtain exemptions to the arms embargo] while continuing to reinforce the UN arms embargo.”

      Yes, we had to destroy the village in order to save it.

      http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/16/u-s-says-its-ready-to-arm-libya-in-fight-against-isis-5885409/

      05/17/16 7:52 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      quote“We will fully support these efforts [to obtain exemptions to the arms embargo] while continuing to reinforce the UN arms embargo.”unquote

      BWAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..HAHAHA..HAHAA HA……!

      Brought to you courtesy of the Office of Obfuscation, Doublespeak, Fables, Lies and Gimmicks(OOODFLAG )

      I don’t know who wrote that but I bet he was thinking something along the lines of….

      ““We will fully support these efforts….Wait…wait ..I can’t write this stupid schlock. I’ll be the laughing stock of the planet. fuk. How do I get myself in these spots. fuk. Sheezsus..but if I don’t…fuk..my house payment is due..damn..crap ..ok..ok.. “while continuing to reinforce the UN arms embargo.” NO NO..I’ll be laughed out of Washington..! fuk..but if I don’t..I’ll loose my job..fuk.. wait..I still have to give that monthly blood money to that b… …god..my wife will rip my balls off if she finds out..ok, DO IT. Write it now.. right now.. fuk..”

      05/17/16 9:20 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Speaking of laughter… from the Dept. of You Gotta Be Kidding Me…comes this…

      http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/05/iran-thinks-kim-kardashian-is-a-secret-agent.html

      excuse me while I ROTFIGSL.

      I don’t think the Iranians are laughing though.

      05/17/16 10:17 AM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      Pitch, America has elevated the status of the harlot (not a synonym for whore) to be a very profitable global export. America actually “honors” its harlots like Madonna, Mylie, Kesha, Perry, the list is way too long to type-

      05/17/16 11:15 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      quote”America actually “honors” its harlots like Madonna, Mylie, Kesha, Perry, the list is way too long to type-“unquote

      Yeah, well I hope they honor them with a draft notice.

      05/17/16 9:29 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      The military has always found wiling “comfort” women. Think Ann Margaret engendeering tens of thousands of futile hard-ons while on tour with the USO. The new girls who might be drafted will be used as pole dancers on the actual bases not in some strip mall a few miles off base.

      05/18/16 7:36 AM | Comment Link

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