• Florida Forces Students Without Parent Note To Stand During Pledge, National Anthem

    September 21, 2016

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    Posted in: Democracy, Post-Constitution America


    Florida’s Orange County Public Schools announced this week students must have parental permission if they want to kneel during the national anthem at football games or otherwise silently protest, such as refusing the say the pledge of allegiance.

    The move comes after students in a single school district knelt in solidarity with 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s protest against social injustice in America.

    Exercising First Amendment rights in Florida now requires parental permission.

    As Unconstitutional as They Come

    The school announcement is so wholly unconstitutional as to be laughable, except that it is Florida, the state immune from reality.

    Previous decisions in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals already found the portion of Florida law requiring students to “stand at attention” during the anthem violates the First Amendment. The Supreme Court has long upheld not participating in the pledge, or remaining seating during the anthem, is protected speech under the First Amendment.

    West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), was the courageous wartime decision by the Supreme Court holding that the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment protected students from being forced to salute the American flag and say the pledge of allegiance in school. The Court stated constitutional rights are to be “beyond the reach of majorities and officials.” It held that the state did not have the power to compel speech for anyone.

    Barnette overruled a 1940 decision on the same issue, Minersville School District v. Gobitis, which said dissent was to try to change a school policy democratically — i.e., through the same system that imposed the restraints being challenged.

    The Court has also upheld that the Bill of Rights applies to students in Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969).

    Florida, 2016

    Officials claim they are following a state law regarding the pledge of allegiance that requires participation in patriotic gestures (they are of course following the exact law the 11th Circuit has ruled unconstitutional, which makes it not really a law anymore, but whatever, Florida uber alles.)

    And so in sweaty Collier County one principal is telling students that they’ll be sent home if they don’t stand during the anthem at sporting events.

    “You will stand and you will stay quiet,” Lely High School Principal Ryan Nemeth announced. “If you don’t, you are going to be sent home and you’re not going to have a refund of your ticket price.”

    Ouch! No refund of the ticket price for you, commie ISIS terrorist students, unless you have a note from home.

    I want to read about the first student, who, when asked for his note giving him permission to remain seated during the pledge, hands over a copy of the Bill of Rights and says f*ck you, Florida.

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  • Recent Comments

    • rich bauer said...


      Either stop stealing this stuff from The ONION or at least mark it as “SATIRE.” I mean really, who says stuff like, “You will stand and you will stay quiet.”

      09/21/16 9:09 AM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...


      I used to enjoy writing a bit of satire here once in awhile, but found too many people seriously confused it with reality. And you should see the emails I regularly get slamming me for saying America meant well in Iraq. I’m switching the blog to cute pictures of pitbulls soon.

      09/21/16 11:15 AM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      Hillary to Ray McGovern. “If you stand quietly you will be sent home…” It was a “private” event which Ray paid to attend so she legally had the right to have him forcibly removed. She’s perfect for the times.

      09/21/16 10:51 AM | Comment Link

    • rich bauer said...


      This country has become a circus, where the most dangerous thing is to dress like a clown:


      “Let the police handle it.” Charlotte, take note.

      09/21/16 12:01 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      The move comes after students in a single school district knelt in solidarity with 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s protest against social injustice in America.”

      What? Mass insurrection by…children? Of all the nerve.
      Sheeech. You’d think this was Murika. I mean.. what’s next.burning our beloved flag? I bet they’ll ask for gender free bathrooms next. And then, the right to wear t-shirts with the Peace symbol. God..what is happening to this country. They should be teaching these misfits how to handle an M4 and wear military uniforms. Ungratefull little twerps. They should thank their lucky stars the principle didn’t whip their butts with a paddle while bent over their desk. Like they used to. God, those were the good ole days.

      09/21/16 3:16 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      ps… 🙂

      09/21/16 3:18 PM | Comment Link

    • Bruce said...


      OR jest substitute the pledge for the laird’s prayer and vice versa at the school’s 4-Square Keynote-recruiting ceremony in 6th-grade, 1960 FLA as i once did !

      09/21/16 4:05 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      One of should rewrite the pledge. It should start out with, “I pledge allegiance to the plutocracy, etc…….”

      09/21/16 5:50 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      In 67 I refused to pledge , but agreed to stand. The Negro homeroom teacher ( my grandfather hired the first colored as a superintendent of schools in the town) The teacher asked me if I wanted to stand in the corner, and then made me stand outside the room. After a few days I believe my father contacted the school, mentioned my grandfather and the school nearby named after him, and oh, also that he was a lawyer. I stood then with no hand over my heart.

      09/21/16 5:52 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Want to stand for something? 9/22 59th and 5th across from The Plaza in NYCyahu…Greet Netanyahu & Kissinger! Tell your friends in the apple.

      09/21/16 5:58 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      News is that ISIS lobbed a canister of mustard gas into a US military installation. Maybe it was just a water balloon with Grey Poupon smeared on the outside. They are JV we must remember- our sterling leader told us so.

      09/21/16 6:05 PM | Comment Link

    • rich bauer said...


      The day after Judgment Day aka the Presidense election, half the audience will be sitting if Trump is elected and half the audience will be loading if Hillarious is elected. Let the games begin.

      09/21/16 9:12 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Speaking of “Let the games begin”, in sports world, how is Charlotte doing tonight? Hands up, don’t shoot.

      09/21/16 9:46 PM | Comment Link

    • teri said...


      I actually researched the Pledge shit a few months ago for a post I was writing and this is what I ended up with:

      I always wondered about the idea of pledging to a flag rather than just the country, but that’s just me.  It appears that we are the only country that routinely uses a pledge like this, and certainly the only country which has schoolchildren doing a pledge of any sort, with the exception of North Korea, where the kids start their day pledging allegiance to their Dear Leader.  Originally, when Americans recited the pledge, people were expected to raise their right hands toward the sky while speaking, but after Hitler rose to prominence in Germany, that started to look, rather obviously, like the Heil Hitler salute, so the gesture was changed.

      09/22/16 6:21 AM | Comment Link

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