• Here’s How Clinton (or Trump) Can Win Tonight’s Debate

    September 26, 2016

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    Don’t miss tonight’s first presidential debate, starting at 9 pm EST. Two will enter, one will emerge victorious. Who will it be?

    Clinton Wins!

    For Hillary to win, she has to:

    — More than anything, convince people she is not a liar. This is her last chance to clear the air, even a little, over the deadly, lingering doubts about her email, the Clinton Foundation, her speeches, all of it. If Hillary dismisses this pile of stuff, or otherwise panhandles her usual non-answers, she may lose. If Trump comes armed with specifics, dates, and facts, Hillary has to deal with them with specifics, dates, and facts.

    — Not collapse on stage and not appear severely medicated. If she can say something convincing about her health, she can win. If the warfarin blood thinners hit her too hard tonight as they did at the 9/11 memorial, the election is over.

    — Not stumble into Trump. If Hillary keeps to the high road, maybe limit herself to one burst of faux righteous anger as she did in the Benghazi hearings (“What does it even matter anymore!”) she wins. If she gets into name-calling with Trump, she loses. She cannot out-Trump Trump and should not try.

    Of all of everything, it is the first item above that will sink or allow Hillary to swim on.


    Trump Wins!

    For Trump to win, he has to:

    — Rattle Hillary. Needle her. Get her to act “unpresidential,” i.e., more like him. Her criticisms of him evaporate if she breaks character.

    — Stay on the offensive. Ask her hard and if possible, fact-based questions about her email, the Clinton Foundation, her speeches, all of it. Don’t let her sidetrack this with calls for his tax returns. Take the hit on that and keep punching. She has more to hide than his tax returns.

    — Not get dragged into some policy wonk discussion. That’s Clinton’s home turf.

    — Be Trump, but maybe just a little less Trump. Don’t abandon what has worked and brought him to this stage, but give enough room for some undecided voters to think “Well, I’ve heard a lot of crap about this guy, but he doesn’t seem as bad as people have said.” Don’t let it look to moderates like Hillary is debating an a*shole. Use the fact that expectations are low to his advantage.

    — If at all possible, a big if, show a flash or two of humor. Turn any Hillary accusation back. Let her try some sophomoric crap like calling him “Donald” and make her seem silly and childish.

    — Stay away from Bill’s sexescapdes. The base knows all about them, and the undecideds don’t want to hear about it.

    — Have a really good answer when Hillary attacks him on being Putin’s man. Maybe throw her love affairs with the Saudis at her.



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    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      “Don’t miss tonight’s first presidential debate, starting at 9 pm EST. ”

      I’ll be asleep. Besides..I don’t give a flying fuck who wins. They’re both, lying sacks of shit who’ll fuck this world up more than it’s already fucked up. Now, excuse me while I get shitfaced. ..er..wait. It’s only 6:30am. Crap.
      Got a whole nuther day of building my new recording studio. Lucky me. I get to spend the day lifting the roofing materials and pounding nails. In the rain. Started this project in July. It was supposed to be just an ordinary ugly shed. Told my wife..easy. Have it done in a week. HA! After building the floor, I started assembling the trusses. UGLY. I decided to redesign it. For me. Been working 7 days a week on this thing, trying to beat the rains, and it’s almost done. At least the shell. Pretty cool too. Wish I could post a pic.

      Anyway, we’ll find out which asshole wins the heart of Murika tonight. meh. They both suck. I could care less.

      09/26/16 6:51 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      ps. As an aside, not that I give a shit, but I have a gut feeling Clinton AND her doctor, are lying through their teeth about her health….

      http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/09/dr_lisa_bardacks_faustian_bargain.html

      One thing is clear though, who ever the LOOSER is, is facing legal shit when the election is over.

      For Clinton..the email thing isn’t over yet…if she looses.
      http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ex-nsa-analyst-fbi-may-reopen-investigation-if-clinton-loses/article/2602804

      For Trump, he might be facing a felony…
      http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jeb-bush-lie-florida-casino-gambling-502144?google_editors_picks=true

      Either way, they’ll still be fodder for the political circus theater.

      09/26/16 7:06 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Ha! Here’s a parallel to Peter’s post today. And the author kicks both of these schmucks asses….

      http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/is-donald-trump-qualified-to-be-president-228657

      09/26/16 7:15 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Debates usually confirm the voter’s gut opinion. Unless Trump says he’s the anti-christ, his supporters will not change their opinion. And even then the majority still won’t change their opinion. Unless Hillarious pulls a fainting act on national tv, her supporters will not change their opinion. Everyone knows what a shit sandwich they have to swallow this election.

      09/26/16 7:55 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Rich, I don’t have the link, but yesterday, I read about how the questions are decided on. It turns out, each candidates campaign committees, submits a list of subjects they will, and will not allow. The debate hosts, then tells the candidates which questions they will ask. It’s rigged. If they had to answer spontaneous, real questions about serious shit, this so called “debate” might get interesting. Unfortunately, it’s not spontaneous. They know the questions in advance. And those questions will be bullshit. Just like the last one. So much for a..ahem..debate.

      09/26/16 9:27 AM | Comment Link

    • Helen Marshall said...

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      Cannot vote for either of these two horrors. The bankruptcy of the Democratic Party has been revealed in full by the full-throttle campaign to ensure that Hillary Clinton, one of the most disliked and least accomplished candidates ever – except for her Wall Street benefactors, see this account in the NYTimes on the same day that the paper endorses her:
      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/politics/bill-hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs.html

      There was a moment when it appeared at least possible that Obama would be different. There is zero chance that Clinton will do anything other than her record predicts – represent the 1% of the 1%, confront the world with a raised fist, and through it all tell us how cool it is that a woman is doing this for the first time.

      As for The Donald, other than his apparent understanding that trying to bait Putin into a nuclear confrontation is not a good idea, what else is there to say?

      Not going to risk my health by watching these two monsters “debate.”

      09/26/16 10:57 AM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      Peter- I have better things to do than watch political theatre and I also think that the event won’t engender a “winner” or a “loser”. I understand why you must watch it and feel badly for you.

      09/26/16 11:28 AM | Comment Link

    • Bruce said...

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      Wall $treet-theater; rather, roll tape :
      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/lies-obama-used-pseudonym-
      email-clinton-told-media-heard-private-email-news/?mtcid=cf and display Obamanable e-mail to Hellary in IMPEACHMENT and trial in Congress before Supreme JUSTICE Roberts ( he swore’em In ; and he can Take ’em OUT!).

      09/26/16 1:06 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      When will them Dems that protested war before Obama, start protesting war (including “O’s” ? When Trump gets elected. The 2 Parties are Corporations lobby.

      09/26/16 1:18 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Obama gave us NDAA. Snowden, Manning, Assange and others. The DNC fixed the election. Bernie sold out, but raised awareness. BDS .

      09/26/16 1:23 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Groovy Michelle Obama was on a late night talk show on Tuesday night recently. Wow. Doesn’t her husband do a kill list on that day or by nightfall? Exceptionalism. USA repeat multiple times.

      09/26/16 1:34 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Lucky us, it’s not on tv down here in Colombia, unless you pay for CNN, but people have more important things to spend their pesos. I saw a show titled “Talking Dead” – but that’s a show about the last days of the United States. Wait a sec, maybe that is the debate.

      09/26/16 4:47 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Majority of people here are in favor of the US- Mexico wall if it will keep out the million of lunatics that live there.

      09/26/16 4:51 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      For the hearing impaired they title it usadeadsignme

      09/26/16 4:53 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      Helen. Obama worships at the altar of the rich. He was always a plutocrat aspirant. Plutocrats are closer to his god not the repellant non rich- who are to be pitied for not earning God’s favors. The rich are good- the poor are just plain bad and undeserving of a benevolent God’s largesse.

      09/26/16 6:17 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Fuck me. I stopped by for a second before going to bed. Damn. This place is better than two debates at the same time. 🙂

      09/26/16 10:04 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Btw, I read about a half hours worth of live tweets and comments at various pre debate websites. I can say with complete honesty.. the DUMBEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET is alive and falling towards the bottom of the abyss at light speed without a clue why.

      goodnight.

      09/26/16 10:08 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Clinton says Trump doesn’t pay federal income tax. Trump responds: “That makes me smart.”

      Well, we don’t need to see Trump’s tax returns, do we?

      09/26/16 10:58 PM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      Well, I watched the first question. The moderator asked how each “candidate” [in The Oligarch’s Choice Sweepstakes] would improve the jobs’ situation, although he managed to word the question to include an opening statement about how improved wages are lately, based on the [fraudulent] numbers coming out of the latest census bureau report. He did not mention that 1) the census people changed the wording on the questions, so that “family income” now includes a family’s assets, rather than just W-2 income (what a blatant way to cook the figures! Add in the house and the family car as freaking income!), 2) it’s FAMILY income, not individual (so you have 1/3 of young people aged 21 – 35 still living with Mom and Dad, and working whatever sucky jobs they can, but however badly they pay, those jobs add SOMEthing to family income) and 3) the median wage is still LOWER THAN IT WAS IN 1999 in real not-accounting-for-inflation dollars. Add in inflation, and you can see we are worse than nowhere.

      He mentioned, as well, the rise in hourly income, a happy figure that is generated by people like that Wells Fargo manager who just got a retirement package of $150 mm (or thereabouts) – that lady just skewed the hourly wage up for everyone all by herself. Figure in a few more bonuses, etc. like that for the people at the top, and we are all doing so much better now, aren’t we? On the average, I mean. Too bad that average has nothing whatsoever to do with MY actual pay, or YOURS, but hey, in capitalism, it’s the aggregate that matters. Everybody a winner!

      I can’t even remember how Asshole and Asshat answered, but after they did, I turned off the TV. Talked to my brother for awhile. He asked me to turn the TV on later so he could hear a few debate questions over the phone (no TV in his place), and the moderator was asking Asshat what he meant by saying a few days ago that Asshole didn’t “look presidential”. That was really a question. I think it was the last one of the night. Turned the TV off again.

      Said goodbye to my brah, and decided to check my emails real quick before hitting the sack, an unusual decision, since I am never up this late. Found I had an email from my daughter, who announced that she has shaved her head. She was letting me know so I wouldn’t be shocked to see it when she moves home on Sunday. (Yeah, one of those kids over 21 who can’t afford to live on her own.) Fucking shaved her head. If she loses her job over this, I don’t know how we will survive – I can’t feed both of us on my income.

      Turned off the computer without answering her email, went to bed, couldn’t sleep. I assume the sun will rise this morning, but I have had about e-goddamned-nough.

      And that’s all I have to report.

      09/27/16 5:53 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      teri said

      “…the moderator was asking Asshat what he meant by saying a few days ago that Asshole didn’t “look presidential”. That was really a question. ”

      Hahaaahahahahahahahahaha!! I hate to say it …but.. I told you so. Debate. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaa! It redefines the word asinine. Center ring of the Election Circus. The Ringling Bros are probably green with envy. But the DCOTP ate it up.

      “Found I had an email from my daughter, who announced that she has shaved her head. She was letting me know so I wouldn’t be shocked to see it when she moves home on Sunday. ”

      Oh man. I know how you feel. In May, my step daughter, who is the laziest person on the planet, “tried” to commit “suicide”, because her new boyfriend told her to fuck off. She took a few pills and called the police. They took her to the emergency room. After checking her out, they called us to pick her up. At 3 fucking AM. She was fine. Dropped her off at her wreck of an apartment.
      That very night..SAME THING. Fuck. Pick her up again. Told her “That’s it. You better succeed next time or I’ll fucking kill you myself.” Next night.. SAME FUCKING THING. Only this time..she called us to take her to the ER. I told her..”die bitch.”
      Next day, her mother decides to move her in with us. Fuck. We’re talking a brain dead, stupid moron who can’t even wash dishes. Had to clean her entire apartment,..and then move everything. AND..she gets MY hobby room. Arrrrrrrrrgggggggggrrrrrrrrr!

      Yesterday, she walked off without us knowing. Spent two hours driving around looking for her. Found her at the apartment complex, walking towards a Save A Lot next door. I asked her what she was doing. She said she was going to buy some cigarettes. I said..”With WHAT? You got no money you fucking dumb ass moron.”

      We’ve had to call the police 6 times in two months when she gets violent. They do nothing. The mental health system in Michigan is a fucking joke too. And yes..I too have had about e-goddamned-nuff. And people ask why I drink so much. Ha.
      Speaking of which.. where did I leave that Everclear? Oh yeah. I don’t give a fuck it’s 7am.

      09/27/16 7:41 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      “Found I had an email from my daughter, who announced that she has shaved her head. She was letting me know so I wouldn’t be shocked to see it when she moves home on Sunday. (Yeah, one of those kids over 21 who can’t afford to live on her own.) Fucking shaved her head.I assume the sun will rise this morning, but I have had about e-goddamned-nough.”

      My daughter called this morning to tell me that her childhood friend – 23 – who had just returned from his second tour in Afghanistan committed suicide.

      Kiss your daughter’s bald head and be greatful she still has one,

      09/27/16 7:48 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      She’s GONE again. But I’m not looking for her again. She can die out there.

      09/27/16 8:01 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      rich said:
      “My daughter called this morning to tell me that her childhood friend – 23 – who had just returned from his second tour in Afghanistan committed suicide. ”

      fuck. Just read an article about military suicides. Unbelievable. Thousands upon thousands. WTF is wrong with this fucked up country? First..they send these kids off to fight insidious, illegal, continuous wars that cause them to commit suicide..and then don’t take care of them when they return. Congress should pass a law mandating the President must view the body of every single soldier who died in battle..and..those who commit suicide.

      “Kiss your daughter’s bald head and be greatful she still has one.” Man. I don’t know if I could kiss my step daughters head. At the moment..I want to rip it off. But.. I will go look for her.(sighs)

      09/27/16 8:13 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      pitch said:
      “Congress should pass a law mandating the President must view the body of every single soldier who died in battle..and..those who commit suicide.”

      Impossible. He’d be viewing bodies 24/7 and still never have enough time.

      09/27/16 8:16 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Arrrrrrrrgggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr…(pulling hair out)

      Police just called. She’s in jail. They found her trying to break in to her old apartment through a window at 5am. The new tenant almost shot her but the neighbor recognized her, and knows she’s mentally not all there. Now she’s being charged with breaking and entering.

      God..I just want to scream. Kiss her head? right. Over MY dead body.

      Peter..sorry for the personal rant here. I’ll refrain from now on. Just wanted to let teri know I feel her frustration.

      09/27/16 8:33 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Pitch,

      Some believe mental illness is a normal response to an insane world.

      09/27/16 8:44 AM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      Rich,

      Sorry, man, but that is a low blow. There are so many layers of difference between a suicidal person who kills him/herself out of despair and a spoiled brat who shaves her head on purpose because she thinks it makes some obscure statement about LGBT rights and feminine beauty that I can’t believe you even made the comparison. My daughter just added to her increasingly bizarre “look” and knocked herself out of a large portion of the local job market out of whimsy. And I’ll have to support her ass – again, as always – if her current employer, in a job she just started only a week or so back, decides she no longer meets the criteria as a suitable employee. And, damnit, she had finally gotten a job that paid a bit over minimum wage after going through multiple jobs with long periods of unemployment. And guess who paid her rent and utilities and tuition while she was unemployed (because she’s never been employed long enough to qualify for unemployment)? That’s right, old Mom, me, who is only barely surviving herself.

      And yes, I do know about suicide and the impact it has on the survivors. It is irrelevant why I am familiar with it. The point is, there is absolutely no comparison between these two situations. NONE. Cheap shot.

      And I know about shaved heads on women, too, by the by. The reasons for that are irrelevant, as well, although they are well known to my daughter. Suffice it to say, I don’t take it as cute or amusing that my daughter thinks the bald-woman look is a fashion statement.

      There will always be worse things happening to other people; I am aware of that. We could all be living in Syria right now, for example. Geez. I am annoyed at my kid and while I am grateful she is healthy and alive, I can still be annoyed for a few minutes without having to go through the exercise of thinking about the thousands of other things that could conceivably be worse.

      Apologies for sounding harsh, but really, man, come on.

      On the other hand, that personal note about my kid didn’t belong here in the first place, so I started it. My sincerest apologies for that, too.

      – Teri

      09/27/16 9:52 AM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      Pitch,

      Jesus. Good luck. Strength.

      ——————

      Peter,

      I crossed the line. I apologize for it and regret it. It won’t happen again.

      – Teri

      09/27/16 9:55 AM | Comment Link

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