• How Soon Before Armed Drones Are Overhead in America? Time Now.

    October 13, 2016

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    Posted in: Post-Constitution America

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    Protocols exist allowing the president to select American citizens, without a whit of due process, for drone killing.


    Only overseas, he says, but you can almost see the fingers crossed behind his back. Wouldn’t an awful lot of well-meaning Americans have supported an aerial drone killing in San Bernardino, or at the Pulse club in Orlando? Didn’t many support using a robot to blow up a suspect in Dallas?

    How soon before armed drones are over our heads?

    Time Now.


    North Dakota just legalized its police departments to equip drones with Tasers, tear gas and rubber bullets. The state legislature will push for the removal of the non-lethal force provision in 2017.

    House Bill 1328 went into effect August 1. The original piece of legislation sought to ensure police obtained a search warrant to use a drone to gather criminal evidence. However, when a lobbyist with police ties was allowed to amend the bill, it was rewritten to specify that drones could carry anything except (’til next year) weapons capable of lethal force.

    Of course plenty of people have died at the hands of police using so-called non-lethal weapons, Tasers in particular. But even if that is not a concern, just wait until 2017, when the police will be able to fly weaponized drones.

    Over America. Or is it: Over, America?



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    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Papa Johns is planning pizza deliveries with drones. Talk about death from the skies.

      10/13/16 5:40 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Nick Mottern has a great site and does great work against drones. He has made many replicas of the reapers for protests. Last inauguration we marched them to as close as we could get to the DroneKings house. See… KnowDrones.org

      10/13/16 8:12 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      If all police, elected ‘officials’…presidents….
      Showed the integrity that the chief of Dallas police does,
      It would not be a problem.
      He agonized over his decision to weaponize rhe tracked drone during the sniper shooting there.

      But, alas, …integrity is becoming a Very rare thing, indeed.

      But, as more and more officers quit, less and less try for the badge,
      As life expectancy of officers drops even further.
      Criminals become better armed. Gangs rule even more of the streets than they already do.

      This will become the new “normal”. To keep the citizens safe, of course.

      Please remember, you can not sue an inanimate object.
      You would first have to sue the agency. Then the manufacturers, then seek the appeals, etc.

      By then, supreme court would be involved, the congress, and the Senate.
      And we see on a daily basis the wonderful ineffective crowd there.

      What I can’t wait to see, is the first time someone gets a speeding ticket mailed to them from a drone camera.
      Just like the, oh so, reliable red light cameras.

      Btw. If anyone would like the tip.

      The way to beat a camera ticket…

      Ask the judge to exercise your constitutional rights to face your accusers in open court for
      ‘cross examination’

      According to the US constitution, the machine has to be produced for cross examation.

      It will piss the judge off, but until they find a way to defeat habis corpus, it still works.

      M

      10/13/16 8:50 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      In 2014 there were 17,565 crimes reported in North Dakota, including 22 murders. That’s a typical weekend in Chicago. Sounds like a solution looking for a problem.

      10/13/16 9:35 AM | Comment Link

    • kyzl Orda said...

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      Rich Bauer: “Papa Johns is planning pizza deliveries with drones. Talk about death from the skies.”

      In DC, Papa Johns would have to remain reliant on illegal immigrants instead of drones.

      If you order pizza from Papa Johns here in DC, usually an illegal immigrant, often from an Arab country, is employed by Papa Johns to deliver your pizza. Kinda ironic considering Papa Johns is a big time donor to the Republicans who claim to be the party of ‘national security’ but don’t tell DHS or NSA, who are too busy checking out our Yahoo emails for ‘signatures’ that raise some kind of flag (probably due to environmental activism more so than islamic terrorism)

      10/13/16 9:38 AM | Comment Link

    • kyzl Orda said...

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      10/13/16 9:41 AM | Comment Link

    • kyzl Orda said...

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      Note the Cheney connection with one of the listed firms

      10/13/16 9:43 AM | Comment Link

    • kyzl Orda said...

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      With the CHeney connection, probably why the bad guys are getting away with stuff. The Cheney folks are too busy watching their bank accounts to really care

      10/13/16 9:46 AM | Comment Link

    • kyzl Orda said...

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      If a drone is involved in the killing of a child in the company of a suspect, that will be the death of drones in active policing. Emphasize ‘active’

      10/13/16 9:48 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Peter said:
      “Over America. Or is it: Over, America?”

      A distinction without a difference.

      However, the picture above says it all.
      Meanwhile, another picture of Police State Murika is being shown across the nation…

      https://theintercept.com/2016/10/12/do-not-resist-the-police-militarization-documentary-everyone-should-see/

      Two years ago, I said on this very site, that armed drones over America would become SOP by 2016. Now I’ll predict we’ll see the end of the 2nd Amendment within 2 yrs. And then… the beginning of door to door arms confiscation. This is when the civil war will begin. Of course..that’s assuming Clinton wins the election. Should…god forbid..Chairman Trump wins.. it won’t matter anyway. However, groping women will become legal… insert rolling eyes smiley here.

      I also predict, eventually, the private ownership of drones will be banned outright too, as even ISIS is weaponizing small drones already. Can’t have the US citizenry having access to that now can we?

      10/13/16 10:11 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      If drones spying on and killing Americans becomes SOP, Pitch won’t be the only one throwing pitchforks.

      That’s the possible future, the reality SOP today is unchecked invasion of privacy involving Stingrays, license plate readers to track your movements, character assassination of those who criticize such practices, not to mention the assassinations we read about every day. One could say the first shots of the civil war have already been fired.

      10/13/16 11:13 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      We are just going to Love what comes next….NOT!!!

      M

      10/13/16 12:47 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Does Cheney still have property on the Chesapeake next to Rummy? Bonus ? ! Is it still a no fly zone? Answers appreciated if you have them.

      10/13/16 1:13 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Maybe I should by a drone to fly around for Blue Shell crabs!

      10/13/16 1:14 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

      15

      A guy, who knows a guy, who knows a cat, who is a friend of a dog, ( clear enough answer without violating security clearances?)

      Says…

      Oh, Yeah its a no fly there. Big time no fly.
      Time area 51 no fly.

      M

      10/13/16 1:17 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Opps..
      Typo alert..

      Think area 51 no fly.
      Not
      Time area 51 no fly.

      M

      10/13/16 1:19 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Are paddle boards on the Bay allowed?!!! Crab pots?

      10/13/16 1:41 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      His heart will last forever! Cheney/2020 ! Hal (symbol)

      10/13/16 1:43 PM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...

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      Chuck, why wait until 2020? The neo-cons are supporting HRC, so we may not have to wait that long for Cheney redux

      10/13/16 6:18 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Killery/2016

      10/13/16 6:28 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      my personal thoughts

      Cheney did not need a new heart.

      He never had one before.

      Guys the devil. Just a plain simple monster.

      M

      10/13/16 6:32 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Killary/ 2016. ?????????

      Becareful……..

      You could be next.

      See something……hear something….

      Midnight mugging….plane crash….car accident……

      You too….can disappear into history….

      M

      10/13/16 6:38 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Mitch said:
      “You too….can disappear into history….”

      And here you called me a fatalist. right.

      Meanwhile, the whole fucking world is ablaze with political whirlwind vortices that make the US election look like Ringling Brothers Circus to the rest of the planet…because.. it is.

      10/13/16 7:16 PM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      Off-topic (after all, what’s a PVB post without a Teri off-topic?):

      With the election in less than a month, one would think the candidates would be really pushing the fundraisers and personal appearances at rallies, etc. Trump sure as shit is, and has descended so deep into sheer lunacy (despite his recent use of prepared teleprompter speeches) that there can be no doubt he is desperately hoping he loses this controlled demolition derby. He probably grouses to his wife in private (and for the life of me I can’t remember which woman calls herself the wife now – total blank on the name), “JEsus, can’t these idiots tell I want Clinton to have to carry this shitty country into the next decade? Why do they keep coming to these goddamned rallies? What have I got to do – foam at the mouth in public? Whip it out and take a piss right next to the freaking podium?”

      But for some reason, Clinton has only one personal appearance scheduled between now and Oct 25th: she will appear at the next debate on Oct. 21. All the other fundraisers, rallies, and events on behalf of the Clinton campaign will feature other speakers. Maybe it’s getting too tedious to hide the fact that no-one shows up at her events. Maybe the poll numbers are so fictitious that they have decided to keep her hidden lest they lose control over the narrative. Maybe the hologram machine is in for repairs.

      It’s a mystery.

      https://hillaryspeeches.com/scheduled-events/

      10/14/16 5:07 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      All I’m saying is,

      People need to wake the hell up.
      Think things are bad now?…
      Wait til Killary can operate with the same impunity as Obama.

      M

      10/14/16 5:40 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Teri,

      Your “off topics” are kind of like the old ‘E.F. Hutton ‘ TV commercials.

      “When E F Hutton talks, people listen”
      Pretty much the same thing.

      It could be, Killary has so few engagement’s, because it allows less opportunities to stumble, fall, and look more like she has serious health conditions.

      M

      10/14/16 5:46 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Imagine… Hillary makes only one or two public appearances before election and wins in a landslide (it’s the people behind the curtain who control). “We came we saw he died” cackle. Did Michelle O mention how many people her man has killed?

      10/14/16 7:36 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Write me in. I will go off topic, and Close Gitmo. Rather than an arrow pointing right like Hillary, mine will point upWarD. Upchuck/2016

      10/14/16 7:38 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      TISA and other goodies released today at WIKI.

      10/14/16 7:47 AM | Comment Link

    • teri said...

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      Mitch,

      Aw, shucks. (blushing)

      – Teri

      10/14/16 8:00 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

      31

      UpChuck/2016. …. Too funny.

      Interesting, sort of on topic,

      Going through the mail. One of the throw away magazines..

      It has 12ga shotgun shells,

      Specifically designed for drones. Has pellets attached to stainless steel netting.

      I would imagine if you used it, and brought down a drone, though…. You are guaranteed to make Killary’s list.

      M

      10/14/16 8:04 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      No doubt TRUMP is in it to lose it. His clownclone son’s comments yesterday that women who can’t handle sexual harassment should quit is the latest effort to lose the election and damage other republican candidates – PAUL RYAN- now and in the future:’

      http://11oclocknews.typepad.com/the_11_oclock_news/2016/06/mission-impossible-2-destroying-gop-ryan.html

      10/14/16 8:10 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Teri,
      Welcome…your own fault though.

      Maybe, you should get with UpChuck and get on his ticket,..
      Have PVB run state

      Bloodypitchfork, of course , will be secretary of defense,

      I will pander for the head job of the most dangerous agency of them all. Secretary of energy.
      Sounds like a couple minutes of fun.

      M

      10/14/16 8:10 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Rich Bauer can run the new CIA…

      Where the hell does he find all of his information( Intel)

      M

      10/14/16 8:12 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Mitch,

      Just like the CIA I pull shit out of my ass and those fools just eat it up.

      10/14/16 9:55 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch. said...

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      Rich.

      Perfect.

      M

      10/14/16 10:11 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Could Teri be Co. Pres.? I’d vote for Teri, or write in Snowden, Manning, Mickey Mouse, my cats ( I didn’t say the P word) Vote for me (or Teri) We will set you free! 99%ers Bonus…Only 99 days of the DroneKing kiling. Have a nice day. Vote often.

      10/14/16 11:06 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Meanwhile.. Jim Garrison’s analysis of the CIA/NSA is vindicated….

      https://glomardisclosure.com/2016/10/13/high-officials-cannot-be-tried-for-their-crimes/

      Folks, there it is… the living proof of..
      a. The so called “rule of law” is a myth…except for you and me.
      b. The tail is now wagging the dog.
      c. THE reason why the DOJ will not prosecute Clinton
      d. THE reason why the full Senate Report on Torture will never see the light of day.
      e. Add your own

      From this point on, there is no plausible way for the government to deny it is anything but a lie. Furthermore..the election is a joke.

      10/14/16 11:18 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Hillary, if elected, has promised to have a drone monitor Trump 24/7 to keep an eye on the dirty ol man.

      FOX NEWS has a new slogan: Win One for the GROPER

      10/14/16 11:49 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      UpChuck…

      Works for me…..

      EXECPT!!!!…

      CATS??????…. WTH!!!

      My wolves would have a field day chasing them through the White House….
      Whole new meaning to the ‘west wing’…. It would become the dog house.

      M

      10/14/16 1:22 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Mister secretary of defense pitchfork…

      Rule of law was replaced by the whim of law quite some time ago.

      M

      10/14/16 1:24 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Amerika, relax, the drones will only be needed to provide surveillance support for the Special Forces -Kill Squads on the ground :

      https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/pentagon-video-warns-of-unavoidable-dystopian-future-for-worlds-biggest-cities/

      10/14/16 2:29 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      The whole point of the article was that will not be air support….the drones will be enforcement, judge, jury, trial….everything….
      Every decision made from what can be seen from a mid-sized TV screen, without surround video,
      With zero emotions, no corresponding information,

      Just what can be pulled from a panicked 911 call, incomplete information, and a quick background check with a 10 scale threat assessment…which will be used to determine if a ‘non-lethal’ reponse… A chaingun response….or a smoking crater ( this one would be the current favorite of “authorities”). As demonstrated by the now vaporized hospitals, aid convoys, etc

      Law enforcement by drone. Scary.

      Seen the remake of ” total recall”???

      M

      10/14/16 3:34 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Little quote for everyone..
      I’m sure PVB already knows this one…but…

      When Thomas Hobbes said this a bunch of years ago…the same sort of trouble was on the rise.

      Humanity is likely on the verge of returning to the mean, and the mean is exactly that:  mean. 

      Thomas Hobbes.

      10/14/16 4:30 PM | Comment Link

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