• A Media Blacklist, Courtesy of WaPo: Now I’m Afraid for Our Democracy

    November 26, 2016

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    Posted in: Democracy, Post-Constitution America


    In most third world societies, when people don’t like the results of an election, they take to the streets. In America, we take to the Internet.

    But the end result is the same. The system is undermined because we do not like the results it yielded. Accusations of something unfair having happened are slung around, usually either unsupported by facts, based on faux “statistical anomalies,” or via a small data set that is blown up into something general to prove “the system is unfair/corrupt/wrong/inaccurate” to people who already believe that to be true but need talking points for their Facebook pages.

    This is the thought process that is driving the wishful thinking behind the recount efforts, and campaigns to push the Electoral College into voting Hillary Clinton into the White House.

    Of course a nice tag-along is if this can all be blamed on an outside third party. Dissatisfied people have little interest in blaming themselves, their flawed candidate, or acknowledging the strengths of the opponent among a large segment of voters. Nope, easier to blame someone else. For that, a person who has been molded into a one-word symbol of, well, everything and anything Americans fear, Putin.

    And so a recent article in the Washington Post terrifies me. It is at a level of journalism that previously was reserved for conspiracy theories on Geocities’ style web sites. Here’s a selection from the article:

    The flood of “fake news” this election season got support from a sophisticated Russian propaganda campaign that created and spread misleading articles online with the goal of punishing Democrat Hillary Clinton, helping Republican Donald Trump and undermining faith in American democracy.

    Russia’s increasingly sophisticated propaganda machinery — including thousands of botnets, teams of paid human “trolls,” and networks of websites and social-media accounts — echoed and amplified right-wing sites across the Internet as they portrayed Clinton as a criminal hiding potentially fatal health problems and preparing to hand control of the nation to a shadowy cabal of global financiers.

    So: Clinton lost because Russia wanted Trump to win because Trump will favor Russia so Russia created fake news which influenced over 62 million Americans to overlook Trump’s flaws and vote for him. Got it.

    Proof? Stuff on Facebook. Main source of that proof? A group of unknown origin, financing, and makeup (“an independent team of concerned American citizens”) called PropOrNot, i.e., propaganda or not. The group also “strongly suspects that some of the individuals involved have violated the Espionage Act, the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and other related laws.”

    A second source quoted by the Washington Post is Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute (which has been around in one form or another since the 1950s, dedicated to the Cold War), who says of the Russians “They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests.” Watts’s report on his work appeared on a blog this month as Trolling for Trump: How Russia Is Trying to Destroy Our Democracy. That piece claims without any real evidence at all that “Russia is actively trying to put Donald Trump in the White House… And the evidence is compelling.”

    I encourage everyone to read some of the linked articles. This is seriously scary Cold War paranoia stuff.

    And guess what? The ProporNot group has created a (black)list of websites that it claims are controlled/influenced by the Russians. While — dammit — this website in not included, I take some solace in noting that I have written for or been reprinted by 11 of them.

    “They use our technologies and values against us to sow doubt,” said Robert Orttung, a George Washington University professor who studies Russia, quoted in the article.

    And that sounds dangerously close to saying our First Amendment’s freedom of speech provisions seem to be the root of this threat to American democracy.

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    • Mitch said...


      Don’t worry…. Just because your site is not on the list…. Does not mean you won’t have storm troopers on your door step too.

      And it is one of the required steps for control, is the act of controlling the media.

      It is nice of them to supply a reading list, though.

      I would be VERY interested to hear from Andrei on this topic.
      After all, the existence of the list says that he is trying to subvert our thinking. ( Andrei… SARCASM… Relax… I’ve seen nothing of the sort).

      But… My first of question, of many, is…. Does it mean I am poorly informed…. As I have only ever heard of , maybe, 6 of those sites???


      11/26/16 3:14 AM | Comment Link

    • teri said...


      Jeff Bezos (owner, Amazon) buys the Washington Post. Jeff Bezos signs a $500 mm contract with the CIA. Neither the CIA nor Jeff Bezos will state what this contract is for. Do you suppose you can figure it out all by yourself?

      In 2013, Congress overturned a long-existing law that prohibited the government from using propaganda in US media to influence Americans. Not that they weren’t directly and openly using propaganda before that – anyone notice the “retired military officers” and “intelligence officers” who outright lied in a successful effort to sell the Iraq war? (Etc., etc.) Changing the law simply made it legal for them to do it again. Do please note that Obama, never a good friend to the freedom of the press idea (see his war on whistle-blowers for example) signed this bill into law.


      The US State Dept regularly uses propaganda to try and sway the opinion of people in foreign countries. They have a branch devoted entirely to this effort. When we do it, it is “spreading democracy”. Assuming Russia does it here, it requires a military response. (LOL – yeah, they got hundreds of agents pretending to be journalists who convince editors to run their pro-Russia stories in the media every fucking day. The CIA, meanwhile, actually does have hundreds of agents pretending to be journalists, including in the US, whose stories are guaranteed to be run by editors of the MSM every fucking day.)

      Voice of America. Look them up, if you don’t know what VoA is. Our tax-payer dollars used to bring correct thinking to the unswayed everywhere. Propaganda, much?

      Also see this article: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/11/whos-biggest-peddler-fake-news.html#more-63506

      and this 18-minute video:

      I had hoped that the one thing we could count on with the election of Trump, the only good thing, near as I can tell (the man is an oaf, a simpleton, a buffoon, a skell looking for a con, a billionaire who will serve billionaires and spit on the commoners) is that there would be an end to the drive for war with Russia. Obviously, I under-estimated the voracious pull of the Clinton black hole. This bullshit “war on fake news” is dangerous dangerous shit, and that it is driven by a neoliberal/neocon propaganda push against Russia is going to lead to disaster.

      America – of all the things we ever lost, I miss our minds the most.

      11/26/16 4:27 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...




      So…. Do you see any solution?

      Through out history, governments, people… Gossips, etc…. All attempting to play these very dangerous games.

      Man, as a species, refuses to evolve.

      So…. Solution?


      11/26/16 5:48 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      Everyone should read the ‘suspects’. Section of ‘propornot’.

      Blood….. Your going to have a field day. Holy Shit!!!


      11/26/16 5:56 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...


      This guy says it very well.

      Fair warning… It comes from the “LIST”!!!

      Beware to all ye who open the link. There be Monsters here at the edge of the map.



      11/26/16 7:03 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      Expanding the mind …. From the reading list…

      You know…… Them, there Russians…… They some crafty sonofbitches…… I means DAMN!!!!!

      Who knew there was a UFO battle happening on the moon??????

      I mean damn!!! Where the hell is my ray gun????? Will Smith, jeff goldblum… Get me a spare space ship…. (have to figure out where the hell to park it, after all one of these sites from the reading list says “planet x and its 4 moons ” hit the planet earth on the 20 of this month. Damn… I missed it ).

      As an example of what the WAPO and these “experts” are so afarid of….
      Don’t they get, that all this is doing… Is trashing their credibility????


      I will say…. The prepper site is quite cool…. Elementary…. But still cool…

      But……. Did anyone else miss planet X’s impact??? Or was it just me?


      11/26/16 7:32 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Jonathan Capeheart (sp) had breaking news from the post about Bernie photo in the beginning of the primaries. He argued it was not a picture of Bernie protesting at college and Bernie lies!. MSM went nuts. The Podesta Group and gang $miled. The photo was real. They tried The post is bird cage material. Next up… Castro if Elected will close Gitmo. The U$ media seems to have all the main talking points as usual, in the reports of Castro having a cigar in the sky! They are figuring how to connect Castro and Putin with fear for life, profits and Empire. Viva Fidel. Find Che and get to Standing Rock with prayer. You are two vets that worked for the people. Peace…

      11/26/16 7:52 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...


      Ok…. I’ve got to insert my blatant smartass side here…

      Several of these sites on the “list”…. They are just extrapolated from a “reliable ” source….listed here…


      So…. Is the bullshit duality I’m seeing, just me??? or…… Did I spend to much time being “propagandaed ” by the Russians at the edge of the map???

      Any way…. Peter, Teri….

      You should be afraid…. I can see easily where you can end up on the list next.

      And… Its not like our government ever makes lists of people to target.

      Btw…. Anyone been hit with an audit from the IRS lately???
      Or was that just people who gave big money to non-obama candidates???


      11/26/16 7:54 AM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...


      My audit.

      IRS: Make any money?
      ME: Nope.
      IRS: Sell any books?
      ME: Five. I bought two myself.
      IRS: You’re pathetic. Get out.

      11/26/16 8:41 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      I’ll let you know what we see in standing rock.
      Not going for a few days. Still collecting stuff.

      Truck drivers are being too cool. When we told them what we were up to…. They are doing it for free… And paying half the fuel. Too cool.


      11/26/16 8:00 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Mitch, hope you are aware of communication problems, jamming etc.. I suggest walky talkies. A relative who never talks like this said “We live in a military police state”. Her friends went to SR, and were only able to have still photos. Most everything else jammed. A reliable source said there is nothing to fear except fear itself. Have a nice day.

      11/26/16 8:16 AM | Comment Link

    • rich bauer said...


      Peter, if they dare to shut WMW down you can shift operations down here in Colombia, where every vote actually counts. Am very surprised we have not heard from the major source of the “election was rigged” , that would be The Donald himself. Those damn Russkies are probably hacking his Twitter account too.

      11/26/16 8:28 AM | Comment Link

    • wemeantwell said...


      Shut us down? I was hoping to be added to the blacklist to start gaining hits and readers. If Putin turns his million-bot army towards promoting me as a Russian agent of influence, maybe I could attract some advertising, free samples of vodka, super models, a little dacha outside Moscow where Snowden and I can play Call of Duty…

      11/26/16 8:40 AM | Comment Link

    • rich bauer said...


      The funniest headline you ever wrote on WMW: NOW I’m afraid for our democracy. I was afraid when George W. was elected presidense. We dont have a dog in this fight. Its the one percent neocons fighting those damn Russkies. We got nothin.

      11/26/16 8:51 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      I’m a master communications tech. Got comms covered…. And…
      After we … Visit… So will they….

      I’m a very… Talented… Asset …. To have around….

      (evil laugh… As mad scientist wrings his hands)


      11/26/16 9:06 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      Too funny.


      11/26/16 9:07 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...


      I have to say something here…. Without saying something here….

      So… A friend of a friend… Who knows a dog… Who knows a cat…..

      Little bit a info for those that don’t know how this stuff.

      Some people… Maybe.. Master techs…
      Sometimes they work for people with.. Interesting… Connections…agencies..businesses … Etc…

      As a pure example….and only an example…

      Certain agencies have public sites for the world to look at….. And because of the levels of hackers out there…security can never be guaranteed. Ever.

      So… The solution is pretty simple… You build sites … Quite often in “alternative media” as an ‘intra-net ‘ ( not internet) portal to where the real email, information, etc is….
      (if anyone needs a complete discription of the difference between those, ask…)( very long description)

      So…. Here’s what a guy, who knows a guy, who knows…..(you get how this goes)….

      Would ask….

      WHY are there at least 4 different agencies… And 2 big boy defense contractor intra-net portals on that list???

      And ….NO…. Absolutely NOT going to tell which ones they are….

      Extra point question….

      How would the WaPO even know to put them on the list?????


      11/26/16 9:19 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      The area outside Leningrad is prettier.


      11/26/16 9:21 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Peter will do anything to get more likes? Is it true? TY PVB and all.

      11/26/16 9:44 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      What will Debbie Wassermanshitz say regarding Fidel? Does she talk any more ?

      11/26/16 9:55 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      The world is watching. The Empire is falling. Viva the People. Imagine, Gitmo is closed. Why did Castro keep it open? We need clean coal.

      11/26/16 10:02 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Mitch, you piss me off. TY. I was gathering a jacket from Nepal, camping gear etc. to meet all and can not do it. Watch your back, and others. I remember Freedom Plaza on stage with Cornell West, and he said “It’s good day to get arrested” and proceeded. Today and the days ahead are good days. Enjoy!

      11/26/16 10:20 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...


      Just when you think media has hit the bottom of the cesspool. Peter.. I hope I don’t find out you’re site is a Russian propaganda tool. I just might hafta kill ya. Insert Two Rolling Eyes smiley here.

      sheeezus. Next thing you know Disney.com is a front for the porno industry. Subliminal porno via their latest movies. Probably having child porno parties in the hotels too. Moreover, Disneyland is nothing but a sexual image machine. I mean, look at Magic Mountain. Just a big tit. And that huge Castle. How many dicks can you build in one place? And those submarines? Shaped just like you know what. And how bout those monorail thingys. Same thing. sheezus. Talk about giant phallic symbols. I swear, someone outta make this go viral. I bet Disney drew porno comics too. fuck. Now I’m pissed. I took my kids there…three times. And exposed them to this shit. No tellin what they’re thinkin now. Probably subverted their poor little minds. Ok guys. Time to expose this insidious plot. Maybe someone can email the Washington Post. Yeah… that’s it. We’ll inform the entire planet! Just think Peter. Your site will become famous. Think of all that dough rollin in! Ok, let’s get busy. Anyone gotta Facebook page? How bout twitter.. c’mannn… time’s awastin! We gotta bring down that scumbag Disney!!! Of all the nerve.. millions and millions of kids.. daily.. seein all that sexual perversion.. that’s it. Let’s hang these mothef… Ok..I’ll be back. Gotta make a youtube and upload it. I’m sure it’ll go viral in less than 10 minutes.. youbetcha.

      sheeezus… who needs Russia when we have WMW. right? right.

      11/26/16 10:30 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...


      Why do I piss you off????

      I mean that’s worth doin…. Is worth doing right, right???

      Meaning… I owe a lot of payback…as in. … I started as an orphan…

      Now…. Yep… I owe some major payback… And… I HATE bullies…

      And I don’t really care if its an asshole in along the highway, beating a girl up…. Or an out of control government…

      Don’t worry… Your name is going on some of the stuff we are delivering.

      Kind of like a lot of people don’t know their names went on the memorial in Dallas, after the cops were killed.

      Some pay foreward… Some payback….

      Who cares… As long as its paid


      11/26/16 11:41 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      You’ve been watching Japanese cartoon porn … Again… Huh????



      11/26/16 11:42 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      ODroner announces ther will be a Trump Tower in Havana. Hope Change Believe! vote?

      11/26/16 11:42 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Obama’s legacy to me is a half white con artist. Sorry to be racist if it is. I am genetically impaired. Blame that damn Human Race Party. I’m starting the Raisin Pary. Make AmeriKa Grape Again. Time out!

      11/26/16 11:46 AM | Comment Link

    • Bruce said...


      Prove ’em WRONG ! It’s jest teh Poppy Bush/Billary/DingleBarry VA$T Right-wing (PNACi) CON$PIRACY 1 : The Clinton$tein MON$TER : IT’$ A BRIBE ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xos2MnVxe-c Now it’s on to teh ExtortY’all college and let’s win there!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvVm9eG6Wbg

      11/26/16 11:58 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      Peter and Teri,

      When they start trying to prosecute you under the espionage act, as the Russian agents you are….

      I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a cat, who knows a dog….

      That can hide you pretty easy.


      11/26/16 12:06 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...


      My IRS audit
      IRS: “We see here you have taken a certain book purchase – WE MEANT WELL, HOW I …. as a medical cost deduction.

      Poole: “Yes, it was for my self engendered mental health regimen”.

      IRS. “That is pushing it buddy but we’ll let it go this time.”

      11/26/16 12:06 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      “I’m with Ike”.

      11/26/16 12:09 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Sorry, “I Like Ike”, and Truth. Pardon Manning, Assange, Snowden. Obama’s bullshit overseas press thingie, when asked if he would pardon Snowden Was BULLSHIT. Did he really pass a high level Const Law Class, or reach his real goal. When the trees are dead, the garden gone, the grass dried and flowing in the wind, will you eat dollars?

      11/26/16 12:14 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      I Regret being pissed off, and ty for listening. …(exhale)… Watch out! Inhale. Water is Life. Air is Life. Life is… Some say “Fuck you Pigs, We love You. Join US. Turn around and Help the people.There Empire is Falling. Help Wanted.

      11/26/16 12:20 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      I hear a drone over head and someone is knocking at the door. It’s ok. They asked if I ever heard off stuff like 99% vs !5, Occupy, and the D and R partys. Then told me to vote often! I told them I was sorry Debbie Wasserman did not make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for being a lying cheater. It is fun to call her office.

      11/26/16 12:25 PM | Comment Link

    • Ken said...


      PropOrNot is now tweeting Ukrainian fascist slogans on Twitter. Haha

      11/26/16 12:27 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Empire Beware. If I see some freak named Mitch moved on from your bs at Standing Rock, I no longer recognize you. I am with the people. Join US (not U.$)

      11/26/16 12:31 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Will these mother fuckers realize how pissed off people are? Vote D or R? Green? Off to take meds..

      11/26/16 12:34 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Thank the people from HomeLand Security. Are they with Wackenhut?

      11/26/16 12:35 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      Quick electronics/ homeland security lesson for you.

      The way homeland watches and tracks most US citizens is through their cell phones.
      NSA has the number. Logs a few calls. Has their voice patterns.
      Most phones are ‘smart’.. So log a few searches.. You have their politics…skills, … Interests…. Etc..

      To do this locally… They use a device called ‘stingray’.

      Now… Stingray… It has all sorts of … Features…. Including…. Blocking signal within a selected bandwidth.

      And…. When its blocked… No tracking.

      Like they are doing in standing rock.

      Right now… Its the freest place in the US… Execpt for pitchfork’s drones.

      And… Because…. For the moment… The air is still free….. It is quite simple to…. Jam the shit out of stingray.


      11/26/16 2:30 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...


      11/26/16 3:15 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...




      Use of a stingray, especially for the purpose of blocking communications, is against something like a gazillion state and federal laws.


      11/26/16 3:49 PM | Comment Link

    • teri said...


      Hey, Mitch,

      No, I don’t have a solution. That’s above my pay grade. We are in Terminal Capitalism, which is exactly like a game of Monopoly. In the end, one guy owns all the stuff and all the money, but he’s killed off the other guys to get it and now he doesn’t have anyone left to play with. Funny how they never think about what happens when the game ends.

      I think humans are to a large extent disappointingly dull-witted and selfish, given to mad fits of brutality and misanthropy. The few sparks of decency you might find in other fellow travelers as you walk about this life ought to be valued as the rare points of light that they are.

      There are no solutions – everyone’s talking and no-one is listening. Too many people willing to kill for profit and too many people who look like targets.

      I do have a suggestion or two, however. Try to be a good human despite it all. And keep your head down and your elbows out. And the last one out of here, turn off the lights, will ya?


      11/26/16 4:01 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...


      Hey Teri,

      Well…. Shit.

      I’m not sure its terminal capitalism… More like terminal greed.

      And… Btw…. Go easy on those that always won at monopoly…. I always did.


      I’m trying my damnedest to do right by fellow man… Just passed inspections on the shelters that open next week….

      But….. You know… Some people on this planet really make it hard to not let the arch angel side loose.

      Sad/ funny/ gracious thing ( sarcastic funny) for you.

      Couple weeks ago…
      Went by one of the houses I own, just checking on it. Its located near a church. Good Christians. (we call it ‘Jonestown’, with cause. They had a preacher for a while…. Yeah… He was a piece of work.)

      So… I’m at the house, see one of the good Christian ladies at the church… Go up a say hi… She’s waiting for another lady so they can go buy food for the needy thing, for thanksgiving.
      I hear that, I hand her a handful of cash to help. She counts it in front of me, and Never says thank you. . No biggie. Bitch. But no biggie.

      So, a few days later, nice man down the road, never have spoken to him, but he always waves and smiles, ( I was trying not to get caught) went by his house.. VERY low income… But… His yard always is immaculate.. House could use paint…
      So, as I get caught, man comes walking out of his house, saying “can I help you?”
      I say ” nope, but, you know your yard always looks so nice, thought you might want a bit of help with the house”.
      He just stares…. Huh? Look….. With a serious look of desperate about him….

      So, I hand him a bag with brushes, stir sticks, etc…

      And say… “come on, you have to do your part..”

      Walk him to the back of the truck… Hand him a bag full of groceries… And a 25lbs ham… And say… Give that to your wife.
      He’s instantly defensive.. “my Wife!!!!???”

      I’m like. ” yeah… That ham either needs to get in the freezer, or cooked, soon”

      He’s just staring….

      So… I tell him…” come on… These things are heavy… So lend a hand”…and we carry the 2 5 gallons of paint up to his house…

      He’s staring… And asks… ” are you an angel???”

      I’m like… “no Sir… Only type of angel I will ever qualify for is ‘arch-angel”

      He says/asks… “arch angel??”

      I respond… “yep.. Arch-angel…. You know… God’s muscle… He sends people like me when someone really needs their ass beat ”

      He responds.. ” are you sure???? I was just Praying for some help…. Then I heard your engine . ”

      I talked to him a bit longer. He asked if I knew a mechanic, because his truck had broke down. (sounds like distributor).
      He said he knew a kid that said he could fix it for 20.00 dollars… But, he didn’t have 20.00.

      ( fyi, I have had a weapons permit most of adult life)
      He had seen my pistol, and commented on it.. I reassured him, it had Nothing to do with him, just that I’m almost always armed )

      So… As he talking about his truck, and the kid who says he can fix it… I reach behind my back… Around where my pistol is… He instantly draws back..duh…so guy he’s never met, reaches toward a gun…duh.. Wonder why he drew back…… And bring out the envelope, that I had put a quick note on, signed with an “M”

      And said… ” now you have your 20.00″

      The look of gratitude… Shock… Thankfulness… Etc… Overwhelming

      Kept asking if I was an angel…. Kept telling him, I owe a lot for the world I have. Over and over again.
      Not sure he got it.

      I told him I had to go… As I was pulling out… I looked back…. I could see tears on his face… Utter shock…

      And… He Still had not opened the envelope…

      Utter gratitude…. That it had happened…did not care that there was a … Bit…. More than 20.00 in the envelope.

      Went back by, just before Thanksgiving… Did the same sort of thing…turkey this time ….
      Different person… The desperate quality is gone.
      Mass gratitude….

      He has already started painting the house.


      Saw the new preacher at the church a few days after dropping the cash on the good Christian woman. Anytime the doors open she’s there.
      Big house. Brand new car.

      Bitch stole the cash.


      11/26/16 7:36 PM | Comment Link

    • Helen Marshall said...


      All I can think right now is that I am #1 glad not to be teaching at a public university in Texas as the open carry rules kick in, and #2, while I don’t like being old, maybe it’s ok…

      11/26/16 9:52 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      The open carry laws here in Texas, are Not what the media made them out to be.
      “open carry” has always been allowed… What the new laws apply to, are only people with current, valid CCW (carry concealed weapons) permits.
      By definition, a weapon can only be carried concealed… Unless needed.
      The law allows for… If your jacket moves… Doing whatever.. That you have not broken the law.

      The universities…. Texas did a study a few years ago… The results were that…..
      There was never, other than a mess in Pennsylvania during/right after WW1, school shootings… Til the fed passed the gun free zone laws…
      Which guaranteed that these bastards that shoot up schools…. Would never be shot back at.

      Kind of a proactive approach.

      Example. Houston…. Couple months ago.
      Original story went mainstream…. Til the whole story came out…. Then mainstream would not touch it with a cruise missile.

      Bad guy, pulls a rifle… Starts shooting at a crowd. Second bad guy pulls gun, starts shooting.
      Mainstream reported it as 2 bad guys.
      Turns out, second “bad guy”. Valid permit, legsl weapon…had drawn and engaged the shooter.
      Guy ended up getting hit 3 times… Was briefly “detained” til witness statements were gathered ( this is procedure).
      Guy managed to go head to head against an assault rifle, with a pistol. Dropped the bad guy….
      He is being credited with saving 300 lives… Including 4 cops.

      I understand his money is no good down there. Including the hospital, that has refused to bill him.

      There are many, many other instances of things just like that.

      Personally, been there done that. Never fired. But the girl that was being beaten along side I-20… She lived.

      They caught the bad guy on the LA side.
      He will get out of LA somewhere around the year 3,000… Then Texas gets him til the year 4,000.

      Point is…. Guns on campuses…. These shooters… They are just twisted little cowards….

      They won’t go to places where people are going to shoot back.

      That’s why that bastard in Dallas… He had to be stopped anyway possible. Anyway.
      He was not afraid to engage armed, trained cops. So the risks to unarmed, untrained people, were off the charts.

      Do I agree with blowing him up…. With a weaponized drone…. For the first time in the history of law enforcement… Anywhere….. Hell no!!!

      Was it neccesary to stop any more killing…. Yes.

      The guy was not a criminal…. he saw himself as a soldier in some sort of war on cops.

      So, he had to be stopped. Anyway possible.


      11/27/16 7:24 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...




      School shootings…. They are nothing new… World wide…

      The situation that in referred to in Pennsylvania… Back around WW1… Still the worst school shooting…. Ever.

      Guy who did it…. With kids there… Blew up part of the school… To draw in responders… Then fired on them…. After they got him. The rest of his explosives went off.

      The 24 news cycle we have now, makes it seem like it’s something new.

      Do I have a perfect solution…. No. Wish I did. But for now…. The only choice I can see….is scare these bastards as bad as they scare the rest of us.


      11/27/16 7:33 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      Have you been advising Trump in your spare time???
      Or has he just been reading your essays???

      Very … Familiar…. Tone here.



      11/27/16 7:45 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...


      Mitch, I was sarcastic when saying I was pissed at you. I am aware of stingray and 5 eyes etc.. Got rid of cells phone over twelve years ago when educated. Text me! When are you off? Be well.

      11/27/16 9:17 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...



      I know that… Guess you missed my own sarcasm.. Hehe.

      When are we going… That, Kind Sir.. Is classified…

      But…. We leave somewhere between the 3rd and the 5th..
      Sorry… Can’t be anymore clear than that.



      11/27/16 9:48 AM | Comment Link

    • Kyzl Orda said...


      Propornot in citing Snopes as an ally is officially stating it supports the anti-Muslim and anti-Arab racism Snopes pushes. In another swipe, Propornot then claims http://www.antiwar.com is Russian-fronted.

      And the Post sources a site that endorses this — while faulting Trump for his own anti-Muslim sentiments.

      Propornot is a front for something — they need to publish their board, editor, and staff – or get out of the biz’ness of fake news pushing.

      Is this a group that may be violating the Smith-Mundt Act?

      11/27/16 11:07 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...


      “Propornot is a front for something…”

      The Ministry of Truth.

      12/3/16 7:52 AM | Comment Link

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