• The Terrifying Executive We Need for the Wrong Reasons

    December 18, 2016

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    Posted in: Democracy, Post-Constitution America, Trump

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    I understand why all of the often false, usually bombastic, reporting on Trump is angering me.

    You know the stuff — take a “fact,” real or fully made up, and conflate it with some apocalyptic prediction. Watch: Trump alternates between wearing boxers and briefs. Will his indecisiveness cause him to pull back when America is attacked by the Russians?

    The other story everyone writes now is based on the journalist’s apparent post-November 9 discovery of an element of fascism, racism and/or parts of the Constitution and presidential practice. And so someone is shocked that Trump will be able to choose drone kill targets, or have access to everything the NSA sweeps up about his enemies.


    The first type of stories are just pathetic, kiddies with pencils seeing what they can get away with, journalists working out in public their disbelief that someone like Trump won, people witnessing their first presidential transition and not dealing with it well. Those stories will fade away, or move to the tabloids where they’ll find a home aside Elvis and Roswell.

    The latter stories, the ones worrying about what Trump will do with the power of _____ are more worrisome. The ascribe fear of executive power and a government run amuck to one man, someone they loathe, Trump. They ignore that these powers, of which we should all be legitimately terrified, are not of a man but of our system.

    Trump, per se, for example, doesn’t control drone killings, the executive does. Bush killed, Obama killed, the president after Trump will kill. Same for the NSA — they all had, and future presidents will have, the ability to spy on anyone.


    By focusing on one man, we imagine any solutions will rest in getting rid of this man (recount! electoral college! impeachment!) That is dangerous.

    Any solutions (I’m not optimistic) must be changes to the system of ever-growing executive power. In that sense, perhaps the election of someone so obvious in his erratic statements, so oafish in his behavior, may be for the best. A bucket of cold well water to the face might be what’s needed for a citizenry that allowed one president to sell all his acquisition of power via a faux-sincere monologue of fear mongering, and another on the strength of his coolness and personal trust.

    The change has to be to the system, not the person. In that sense, perhaps Trump will be the president we need, if not the one we wanted.



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    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Trump is US: corrupt, vain, and exceptionally stupid. He is not a force for good and will fuck everyone that he can if he can make a buck off the. USA USA USA USA

      12/18/16 7:59 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Peter,

      Question….. What if Trump is acting the way, he apparently is…. As a ploy… Act…. Etc.???

      To keep everyone guessing…

      Reason I ask is this…

      I’m big into business…

      First lesson I ever learned was….

      If they expect you in a suit…. Wear jeans….If they expect jeans…. Wear a suit….

      Always keep them guessing.

      Trump is big business.

      Just a thought.

      Beyond that…. You are absolutely correct….. Trump is not the problem…..

      The system is the problem…

      Each president pushes the envelope a bit further…. Til the rights we had…. No longer exist.

      M

      12/18/16 8:42 AM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      48 laws of power by Robert Greene. I only looked at the tactics people like Warhol used. Most of us just aren’t conniving by nature. Hopefully Trump will use his skills to benefit regular folk not just his plutocrat buddies. I feel hopeful- something I never felt during Obama’s wasted eight years.

      12/18/16 8:55 AM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      “The system is the problem” and “always keep them guessing” are nice quotes. Will the Russians fix the Electoral College?

      12/18/16 9:17 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Et tu Trump? The corporate mass media wants Citizen Kaine. Assuming the electoral college fails to obtain the absolute majority for Trump, it goes to the House. If it fails to achieve a majority pick it then goes to the Senate. Any name put forward by the EC can be considered. The anti-Trump and anti-War Witch coalition reach the Virginia and Connecticut plan: Senator Tim Kaine as VP with “Republican” ex Senator Joe Lieberman as president.

      In Rome the Senate will stab the dictator in the back every time.

      12/18/16 10:09 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      John Poole said:

      Most of us just aren’t conniving by nature. ”

      John…. You’ve never been to Arkansas, have you…. Spend 6 months there…. You will change that statement.

      M

      12/18/16 11:10 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      PS.

      I agree… Hopeful… Guardly…. But… Yes… Hopeful.

      M

      12/18/16 11:12 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      “The change must be in the system.”

      Gut the CIA then. We have seen this movie before. The intelligence community consensus is not based on evidence but opinion and wild speculation. The CIA has never been an independent objective organization. WMD stands for wild misdirection and is just as deadly.

      12/18/16 11:33 AM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

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      I drove through Arkansas many decades ago. It did have a tint of Deliverance to it. Conniving might come from too much inbreeding.

      12/18/16 12:50 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Hope… Happy 29th Chelsea. Truth is good. Wrong is bad.

      12/18/16 1:04 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Mat go to Electoral College protest (pro hillary) to hold a sign “The DNC Hacked Bernie winning! Convict those who fix elections”.

      12/18/16 1:07 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      sorry . May

      12/18/16 1:08 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Peter said:”A bucket of cold well water to the face might be what’s needed for a citizenry that allowed one president to sell all his acquisition of power via a faux-sincere monologue of fear mongering, and another on the strength of his coolness and personal trust.”

      Yeah, and then what Peter? Elect another meglamaniac schmuck from one or the other party, which is mainly bullshit? The only power that will really force change is.. revolt. And knowing how divided Murika already is.. I’d say it will happen the day an armada of Flying Pigs appears along the west coast. But I’m all ears to hear your solution.

      John Poole said…
      “I feel hopeful- something I never felt during Obama’s wasted eight years.”

      Well, in regard to what I said about revolt, you might want to read this. Pretty weird, but it puts HOPEFUL in perspective of a future reality…

      http://www.chris-floyd.com/home/articles/message-from-the-future-your-acceptance-of-evil-has-condemned-us-all-12122016.html

      And IF(that’s a BIG IF) this message was indeed from the future, that pretty well sums up what Trumps tenure in the White House will actually do, notwithstanding the authors perspective on the American citizenry. No matter if it’s a hoax or not..his description of the psyche of America is DEAD FUCKING ON.

      12/18/16 1:26 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Neftegas…

      12/18/16 1:26 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Sorry Donald. “T”Rex is dead.

      12/18/16 1:28 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Peter said:”A bucket of cold well water to the face might be what’s needed for a citizenry…”

      Hahahahahahaha.. I’ve had enough “cold well water to the face” this morning to last a fucking lifetime. 12 degrees with windchill at -1…down in a concrete bunker trying to prime my well pump, with a hose spewing ice cold water to fill the well tank.. you don’t have a clue what cold well water really is. But SUCCESS!!! After 2 hours, my hands were close to frostbitten. Now, after getting warm for an hour..I get to go finish putting a serpentine belt on my cars engine. Lucky me. not. Wish me luck. I failed yesterday due to freezing cold and lack of one tool. No such thing as failure today.

      12/18/16 1:32 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      John,

      I saw so of that…. More……

      What I saw mostly…. Is an understanding of why the south lost the war…. Arkansas was stealing everyone’s ammo….

      A LOT of stealing, rackets,angles…. Anything…. Everything…..

      Principal seems to be…. Steal, just to steal.

      M

      12/18/16 1:35 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      Was the pipe cracked, or the air vent broken?

      Take a crowbar for the car, you will need it.

      M

      12/18/16 1:38 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      The chris Floyd site….

      Do you know how to delete cookies from your computer???

      Just a thought…. You should delete them.

      M

      12/18/16 2:06 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      predictable….

      They have started turning on each other.

      But nice that the “after party “, had mick Jagger and Reese Witherspoon at it….

      Wonder what that cost.

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/18/clinton-advisers-point-fingers-at-huma-abedin-inner-circle-for-loss.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal+-+Politics+-+Text%29

      M

      12/18/16 2:13 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Bernie is a friend. I do not endorse him endorsing the Democratic Party as our future. Have a nice day.

      12/18/16 2:41 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      Does anyone know who or what the Clinton Foundation and their son-in-law and his hedge fund invest in? What investments do the Clinton Foundation and son-in-law have? Are they public, or are they like the Obama Torture Report, not yet released to the public [being hidden in the “Obama Library” for 12 years]? Have a nice day! Hope . . .

      12/18/16 2:56 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Chuck,

      I admire you saying that….. Personally…. I’m too business to be a socialist….

      And….. I’m pretty black and white on corruption….

      Such as…..

      http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-bernie-sanders-caught-funneling-money-to/

      M

      12/18/16 2:57 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      I am an immigrant.

      12/18/16 5:19 PM | Comment Link

    • chuck said...

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      My family is or are immigrants. If we have no family, or county,ARE WE LOST IF WE WORK FOR THE PEOPLE?! (time out)

      12/18/16 5:21 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      12/18/16 6:39 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Mitch said.

      “Pitchfork,

      The chris Floyd site….

      Do you know how to delete cookies from your computer???

      Just a thought…. You should delete them.”

      Hashahahaha.. if anything I should delete cookies from here. But out of curiosity, what makes you think I should delete them from Floyds site??????????

      I mean, what’s the most that can happen? My computer compromised? Hahahahahahahaha.. everybody’s computer is compromised. It’s only a matter of if you are a threat to the State. I mean, I already know my opinions posted online at various sites comprise my “online NSA database dossier”. So be it. In fact..I’d feel fuckn honored if some moron in the NSA felt my contributions to online dissidence had elevated to the point a team of NSA dimwit analysts were so fucking bored, the tied me to some kind of “terrehists”, and then tipped the FBI. Hahahahahahaha! Make my day. Maybe they’d like to come on over and snow shovel my driveway so my serpentine belt don’t slip off the fucking pulleys due to too much snow forcing it’s way up into the engine compartment when I back out in 12″ of snow, so I can meet some halfwit FBI dipshit informant compadres, who in their infinite dimwittery, try to bend me into conspiring to overthrow the USG with show shovels and explosive laden snowballs.

      Please Mit..spare me.

      12/18/16 7:07 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      No sweat.

      Its just that my virus and cookie software came crashing down hard on that site.

      PS.

      Peter does not run cookie tracking.

      M

      12/18/16 7:34 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      btw Mit.. solved.. both pump prime and serpentine belt. Total freezing mindfuck. Resting now, while contemplating what my aunt told me about my dad.

      In 1931, my dads family was the posterchild for the Grapes of Wrath. 6 kids and my grandparents, leaving Oaklahoma on a journey to the land of golden honey, packed to the brim on a 1928 Ford Model T pickup. My dad was 11. When they finally reached the Mohove desert at the edge of California, in the middle of bum fuck egypt in 120 degree weather, the engine overheated and stopped running. My grandfather, bless his Irish mean heart, didn’t have a clue what to do. But my dad did. I’ve told this story at least a dozen time across the net, but I’m going to repeat it for your benefit.

      In essence, what I learned from this was.. if you DON’T solve the problem at hand, you may fucking die. PERIOD And therein lays the motivation for doing everything in your power to keep from dying.
      You only have two choices.. solve it or die.

      In this case, dad, at 11 years old, had already rebuilt engines as he started his mechanical interests at 6 yrs old, by figuring out how to combine various hardware, to utilize the power of an automobile’s drivetrain, to connect to a huge sawblade to cut firewood to sell for survival.

      Fast forward to that day in the Mojave desert. From my aunts recollection. First thing dad did was unload the Model T. With the few tools at his command, he then drained the oil pan.
      Then..using the power of family, to turn it upon it’s side, he pulled the oil pan. No one in the family could assertain what dad was thinking, as he went about finding the bearing that had failed. It was a rod bearing. Upon that discovery, he then set his sights on trimming a leather bushing. Two hours later, dad, in the middle of the 100 degree weather, had the family push that old Model T upright, and began to hand crank the engine. It started. They loaded up and left for California. Moreover, it ran another 500 miles to Corning California, where my family has it’s roots for the last 90 years.

      Given that background, it’s no wonder, my dad, at 18 yrs old, became a Naval flight mechanic and part of the crew of a PBY in the Pacific that discovered the Jap fleet heading towards Midway. His picture is in the Smithsonian.

      What I’m telling you is.. it’s only because of my dads relentless refusal to let conditions bury him to the point of death, I learned, year by year, you only have your own determination to succeed or not. In that regard, consider this.

      At one point in my less than successful life, I owned a car, like most cars, eventually suffer failure of certain components. In this case.. an alternator on a 1978 Dautsun. Given you couldn’t find a new part if you tried, even if you could afford it. And herein, lies the minutia of what my dad, as a mechanic, knew. He saved parts of cars, that he knew, he could substitute, regardless of manufactures specifications. In this case, a rear portion of a DODGE alternator, that contained the DIODES. Within a half hour, he soldered a set of wires,from the diodes in that unit, to the diodes in the existing Dautsun alternator..and then..BOLTED that half of a Dodge alternator to the firewall. I drove it like that for 6 years. Moreover, this is only one, of at least a hundred things I saw my dad do to keep me on the road.

      Ok, nuff storys. All I can say is this is why today, in freezing weather, I only had one choice. Succeed.. or face the consequences of failure. PERIOD. It took two hours to get that goddamned serpentine belt aligned, and then pull that fucking tensioner pully down with the other hand to slip the belt over the alternator pully. When it happened.. I thought of my dad. YEA DAD!!

      12/18/16 8:16 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork.

      Don’t have a dad. But I understand.

      And I am familiar with Corning. Sorry.
      That is one fucked up place.
      Beyond fucked up. Beyond Killary Fucked up. Beyond Obama fucked up. Beyond Trump fucked up. Beyond the capacity of any known language in the universe fucked up. Cats having puppies with 19 eyeballs fucked up. Whole damn county is fucked up sideways, baxkwards complete with being run over by a tanker truck driven by a drunk inbred Martian, Crossbred with a illegal alien from Uranus.

      So fucked up I know people that will drive to Nevada to avoid that city and county.
      Known people that sold at 75% losses to get away from that area.

      I understand that the number one industry there now is… Heroin. With a side order of crack.

      And the number one export is convicted major felons.

      So….. Ask me how I really feel about that place.

      So…. Your from THERE????????

      M

      12/18/16 8:51 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      btw… In some kind of sci-fi switch of TimeWarp..I wish Trump would end up where my dad was in this picture…

      http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/generalwarrant/library/

      Trump really doesn’t have a fucking clue about the Ghosts of Tom Joad.

      12/18/16 9:34 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      fuck.. digital bullshit makes me crazy.. here is the link. I think.

      http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh504/generalwarrant/Ghosts_of_Tom_Joad_zpsbvjzzgqg.jpg

      12/18/16 9:42 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Mitch said:

      “And I am familiar with Corning. Sorry.
      That is one fucked up place.
      Beyond fucked up. Beyond Killary Fucked up. Beyond Obama fucked up. Beyond Trump fucked up. Beyond the capacity of any known language in the universe fucked up. Cats having puppies with 19 eyeballs fucked up. Whole damn county is fucked up sideways, baxkwards complete with being run over by a tanker truck driven by a drunk inbred Martian, Crossbred with a illegal alien from Uranus”

      Really? You should see it today. All I know is I have memories from not only going to Highschool there for three months, but even at my young age, my whole psyche changed into white cowboy reverence, which to this day, I can’t believe what I experienced. What is really weird, is three years later, after moving to Sacramento, I and two of my new band members, took a bus up to CORNING to visit my grandma. Unbelievable experience. To this day, my band member friends relate that experience as the most bizarre experience in their whole life. But it involves more than you can possibly imagine.

      12/18/16 10:16 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      ps..
      Mitch said:

      “And I am familiar with Corning. Sorry.
      That is one fucked up place.
      Beyond fucked up. Beyond Killary Fucked up. Beyond Obama fucked up. Beyond Trump fucked up. Beyond the capacity of any known language in the universe fucked up. Cats having puppies with 19 eyeballs fucked up.”

      Mitch.. now I know you are for real.

      12/18/16 10:19 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      That would be Corning.

      Bizarre does not even come close to a description last time I heard.

      Twilight zone is not even close from my understanding.

      It is a real nice place… To drive by at 3 mph under the speed limit… So that you never have to return… Ever.

      I can’t even imagine going to school there. How much did the therapy cost after you moved?

      What’s it like today?…. Worse????

      M

      12/18/16 10:28 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      Dude, you have no idea how real.

      And I have my own reasons for absolutely hating that place.

      I’m hoping Trump will talk to his buddy Putin and add it to the ‘nuke it off the face of the universe’ list.

      M

      12/18/16 10:32 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      ps.. you should have experienced what I did in Corning during my 6 months of living with my grandparents on the outskirts of Corning during my junior year of high school. Given it was my parents place of meeting during their own time of growing up there, living there, and then marring, at my age then, I failed to realize the physical manifestations of what they went through in terms of their real life’s conditions they went through.
      I saw it. But at that age, my own needs as a teenager meant scoping out the nearest cultural input I could find was the local movie theater, notwithstanding bonding with the local cultural “cowboy” ethos of young men at the time. fuck. Had I got stuck in that world… sheeezus..
      I could tell you volumes of cultural psychological traps I almost fell into in..ahem.CORNING. Needless to say..I escaped. only to find my self trapped in another similar environment 2000 miles away. The only difference is. this one can kill you if you don’t take care of every single natures dumping of the nature of weather.

      Ok…nuff bullshit. carry on

      Although, coming from Whidbey Island in the State of Washington at the time, I was

      12/18/16 10:50 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      continuing..

      Although, coming from Whidbey Island in the State of Washington at the time, I was naive to Corning, even though, as a Navy kid, I had already experienced young schooling from Corpus Christi Tex, to Brunswick Maine, to San Diego California, and other places. Which is probably good. I experienced lots of cultural diversities and their school related ethos. What I didn’t know was how to cope with middle California, cowboy culture to survive.

      Ok, nuff personal perspective on Peters blog.Let’s move on.

      12/18/16 11:07 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Agreed.

      With a final note.

      Its not cowboy culture anymore.

      Its major narcotics and MAJOR narcotics trafficking. As in a stopping point for cartels.

      Extremely high unemployment. Extremely high drop out rate.

      M

      12/18/16 11:13 PM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Trump University flunks the Electoral College. Trump supporters want their money back.

      12/19/16 9:46 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Mitch said…

      “Agreed.

      With a final note.

      Its not cowboy culture anymore.”

      Drove through Corning for the last time in 2012. Ugly. I just had to see the places my parents, grandparents and me lived and how they had changed. Some hadn’t changed since they were built. Like the shack where my dad lived from 1933 till WW11 started. 6 kids, one room with a dirt floor. It was still there. Through my entire upbringing, if I ever complained about anything, dad would say something to the effect..”You think you got it rough????
      You’re lucky you didn’t live my life in Corning..biscuits and Karo syrup 6 days a week, with Pork and Beans on Sunday, AFTER chopping firewood all day.You haven’t got a clue how lucky you are.”

      Here’s what he was talking about…
      This was taken outside that shack, 1 mile from downtown Corning
      http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh504/generalwarrant/Ghosts_of_Tom_Joad_zpsbvjzzgqg.jpg

      12/19/16 10:51 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      geeezzus, just realized I posted that link TWO times before this…fuck.

      bartender…cut me off.
      Insert double face palm smiley here.

      12/19/16 11:00 AM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      2012…..

      Is that place surrounded by olive orchards now?

      And..which direction?… Toward the freeway?… Toward the woodsen bridge?… North toward Rancho hell?… Or south toward the land of cop drug dealers?…. Or…. Even…. Across the freeway toward the rich people who own car dealerships?(aka.. Fucking criminals)

      And… Is the POS pizza place still on the main drag?

      With the cops who live to harrass to the best of their abilities?….

      If you want…. Send Peter an an email, asking for my email… Peter… You have my permission to release it…

      My reasons for hating that place…. NOT for publication.

      But…. I will release privately.

      M

      12/19/16 11:01 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      On a side note, this pretty well sums up everything related to this whole election debacle ..

      http://www.stonelodgecouncil.net/2016/12/19/when-lemmings-march-to-war/

      Lemmings indeed.

      12/19/16 11:07 AM | Comment Link

    • Rich Bauer said...

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      Or maybe this sums up this boomerang election: the deplorable got tired of getting nothing but overhyped Obamacare and decided to vote for the opposite – a rich stupid white guy who is smart enough not to listen to the corporate media, the professional liars at the CIA and not afraid to show the world we are a corrupt country that shouldn’t be trusted. Anti-Obama trumps our house of cards, and the Joker is on US.

      12/19/16 11:30 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      Mitch said…
      43

      Pitchfork,

      “2012…..

      Is that place surrounded by olive orchards now?”

      Yeah. But the shack is now an outbuilding on someones property.

      “And..which direction?… Toward the freeway?… ”
      South, on a road that parallels the freeway on the east side. Don’t know the name of it. But I remember I could see it from the freeway. I probably could pick it out on Google maps, but..(shivers) I can’t even look at Corning even on a map anymore. Which btw, I did a few years ago on Street view. Same ugly town. Gives me the fucking creeps now.

      “Toward the woodsen bridge?…” North toward Rancho hell?… Or south toward the land of cop drug dealers?…. Or…. Even…. Across the freeway toward the rich people who own car dealerships?(aka.. Fucking criminals)”

      Holy shit. Woodsen bridge. Man could I tell you stories about that place. I lived with my grandparents about 2 miles west of Woodsen bridge.
      Ugly, dry old hills. With an old dead Almond orchard across the street. The house was 200ft from the old Moon school. Looks totally different now. God did I hate that place. Speaking of the other side of the freeway, if you headed west on Mainstreet, and drive about 15 miles, you’d reach Paskena. Fuck. Talk about “cowboys”. A couple of them almost killed me when I went to a dance out there. I was 16. Never went back. Ugliest place I ever saw.

      And… Is the POS pizza place still on the main drag?

      “With the cops who live to harrass to the best of their abilities?….”
      When I was there, they looked like fat, southern dumb fuck sheriffs. Made Barny Fife look like a genius. At least..in my mind. I did see them in action a couple of times though. sheeezus. Insert two rolling eyes smiley here.

      “If you want…. Send Peter an an email, asking for my email… Peter… You have my permission to release it…”
      That’s ok. No need.

      “My reasons for hating that place…. NOT for publication.”

      I can guess. But I don’t need to know. Frankly, I just want to forget about that dump.

      12/19/16 11:42 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      ps.. don’t know about that “pizza place.” It wasn’t there when I lived there. Why? Does it have to do with “your” connection?

      12/19/16 11:44 AM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      One more thing…
      “Is that place surrounded by olive orchards now?”

      Corning’s main industry, from early in the 19th century, was Olives. There are orchards all over the place. The main employer was Libbys. My grandfather, was their chief olive processor. His specialty, was the large, Spanish olives that Corning was..ahem..”famous” for. Haha. There used to be a place along Hiway 99 that sold all kinds of olives. It was called “The Olive Pit”, . Pun intended. Hahaha. Don’t know if it still exists, but it used to be a main rest stop for travelers on Hiway 99. I can still remember all the fruit stands along 99 too. Great stuff. No more though. But..there’s the Casino now. fucken ugly.
      I think the main employer now is Walmart. There’s a humongous distribution center up north about 5 miles. God am I glad I escaped. Even my dad used to tell me, he’d sit at the corner of mainstreet and 99, at the old Train station, and dream of escaping too. His chance came on Dec. 7th, 1941. He escaped the next day.

      12/19/16 12:01 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

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      btw,last thing I’ll say about corning. If anywhere, was the posterchild for the Grapes of Wrath, Corning was. And my dads family was the epitome of Tom Joad’s family. When they first got there, they lived in those camps. My dad told me, that because his dad was a mean tempered Irishman, and worked in the steel and oil industries in Oaklahoma, he had arms like Popeye. He’d make a little extra money each week, by going to the local bar, and betting he could pick up a huge cast iron anvil, using his little finger in that square hole,and toss it 10ft. He always won. Ok…nuff bout that shithole.

      12/19/16 12:10 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      Yep…. I know exactly where all of that is…. And… I know exactly (I think ) where you lived…
      Down the frontage road toward the truck stop and jack in the box.

      Last time I saw…. The place where you grew up…. Kind of poverty trailer park now…
      The fruit stands… North of where they used to be… Next to the hamburger place, east side of the freeway.. (saved a guys life there one night. Old man… 2 broken ankles.. Hospital in Red Bluff… “treated him”… Doped him.. Put him on the bus… Tranked out of his gourd.. System shutting down…. No one knew what to do….)

      Olive pit…. Still there… Last I heard… Been 20 years plus now though….
      Pizza hell… About 150 yds west of there. Nice place to find a knife fight on Friday night. Now… Probably gun fights.

      Old train station…. Yep… Know where that is…

      The Moon School…. Yep…. Supposedly there are ghosts there.

      Paskenta….. HELL HOLE!!! Nice place to film the next ” Wrong Turns” movie…( all about in-bred, human eating, radioactive assholes).

      Last time I saw… They have their own cops…. A dozen of them just went to jail for a variety of things…. From serial rape…. To narcotics trafficking.

      The place is just plain Evil.

      Congratulations on getting the hell away from there.

      Its the kind of place that just eats life….. And kills hope.

      M

      12/19/16 12:32 PM | Comment Link

    • Andrei said...

      51

      Meanwhile, Russian ambassador just got shot in Turkey. Sorry for offtopic, guys, I just hope that it wasn’t the response Obama promised for the alleged election hacking.

      12/19/16 12:49 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

      52

      Hey Andrei,

      Off topic?????

      Sort of…. Localized corruption discussion.

      I just heard…. Have not read about it yet.

      Russia will respond harshly???

      M

      12/19/16 1:02 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

      53

      Andrei,

      Confirmed…..

      Shooter is a cop.

      M

      12/19/16 1:28 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

      54

      Off topic?? Hahahahaha! That’s what this place is about Andrei. And speaking of which…

      Trump dumps another BILLIONAIRE alligator in the swamp. ..

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/12/19/army-veteran-vincent-viola-billionaire-owner-of-the-florida-panthers-named-trumps-army-secretary/?utm_term=.392112f930ee

      Meanwhile, I hope some of his “supporters” heads are exploding. Of course, most of them are so dimwitted they would ignore Trump grabbing their daughters p***y while stealing their property by colluding with local officials via eminent domain.. for profit. Wait till the GOP takes the poorest of their only hope for survival in old age. And they WILL. These scumbag billionaire class monsters don’t give a flying fuck if half this nation starved to death. And Peter..I don’t give a fuck what you say.. Trump has already proven what his intent is.. and now that he’s filled the swamp with billionaires, Goldman Saks rats, racist AG, torture advocating CIA scum, and now, another billionaire to head the Dept of Army.. anyone with one fucking neuron between their ears don’t need a weatherman to see which way the winds blowing. All I know is..there isn’t any path for the citizenry to change the SYSTEM… except for civil war/revolution. Which given what the GOP has in mind.. they just might get.

      12/19/16 4:29 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

      55

      Mitch said…
      @50

      “Pitchfork,

      Yep…. I know exactly where all of that is…. And… I know exactly (I think ) where you lived…
      Down the frontage road toward the truck stop and jack in the box.

      Last time I saw…. The place where you grew up…. Kind of poverty trailer park now…”

      Holy shit Mitch. WTF? ummm.. now you got my curiosity up. I’m guessing..you were somehow connected to law enforcement there, no? If so..gawd. Must have been 80’s/90’s? Give me a clue… please.. purty please? 🙂 No need for full explanation via email. Or maybe. Depends. But I am curious. Seeing what you know..especially the Moon School.. tells me something. One thing though.. I DIDN’T grow up there. Lord forbid. …(shivers at the thought)
      I spent my childhood growing up around Navy bases from Oakland and San Diego Ca, to Texas, Whidbey Island Washington, and Brunswick Maine. Best damn upbringing a poor Irish kid could ever have. My connection to Corning was because my parents met there, during their high school years. My dad proposed to my mom, at that Train station, just before he shipped out to the Pacific.
      Even though I spent numerous holidays and visits to my grandparents various homes around Corning during my childhood, the only time I actually lived there, was the last 4 months of my sophomore year in high school. My dad had just retired from the Navy at Whidbey Island, which is my most loved place to live , and had yet to secure a job anywhere, but was trying to get a job with Aerojet(think giant rocket engines) in Sacramento, Ca, which he ultimately did. So they left me with my grandparents to finish out the school year. God..what a rude awakening.. in some respects. I mean.. coming from Whidbey Island?? fuck.
      In June.. my folks brought me to Rancho Cordova.. which was the epitome of middle class America during the early 60’s. In reality..I loved it. 17 miles out of downtown Sacramento. The place was HAPPENING!!! That is the place that formed so many of my life’s future and memories I couldn’t write an encyclopedia sized work of writing to describe what happened there. Although..notwithstanding meeting my future wife there.. here is one aspect..

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ece5c5v6M04

      Hahahahahaha.. gawd.. As Archie Bunker sang..”those were the days.”

      But I’ll leave it at that. This isn’t the place to continue personal crap. I’m just glad to meet someone who knows about one particular facet of my life.

      Although.. I may contact Peter.

      12/19/16 5:11 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

      56

      btw..just as an aside.. I wrote the A side of that record we recorded. Geeezuss.. looking back.. I almost cringe at the . Hahahahaha. So be it. We had a lot of fun, made some good money, and had more experiences most people only can dream of, notwithstanding the opposite sex..if you know what I mean… wink wink. However..for instance..

      The Coachmen, were at the time, the most employed and popular band in and around the Sacramento Valley. At the apex, a local promoter, dreaming of possible Beatle management type $$$$$$$$, somehow got a contract ready to sign, with Capital records. Which was the Beatles record company at the time. Ha. The very week she presented it to us for signing, 3 members of the band got INDUCTION notices. Hahahaha. So much for stardom. Which, at the time I thought was a fucking joke. I mean..I didn’t give a rats ass.. I just wanted to be a great musician. Fuck the commercial star building system. I wanted to play..JAZZ. you betcha. fuck the popular shit.

      Anyway.. again.. nuff of this shit. You just happened to tickle my curiosity.

      12/19/16 5:29 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

      57

      Peter.. please forgive me for using your site to post personal crap. Won’t happen no more.

      12/19/16 6:02 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

      58

      Gawd.. I can’t resist…
      Mitch.. since you are 100% Texas, then no doubt you must have some kind of knowledge of Bob Wills. No?
      If not.. I’ll close this conversation for good.

      12/19/16 6:06 PM | Comment Link

    • bloodypitchfork said...

      59

      Meanwhile the corruption of Deep Wallstreet continues to defy ordinary human cognition of how corrupt and evil these scum suckin bastards really are.
      http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/12/19/platinum-partners-execs-charged-1b-fraud/95605808/

      The real question is..how the citizens of this nation, go to sleep each night, knowing this shit is taking place. In my parallel universe, we would have already, drug these maggots from their granite palaces and burned them alive, upside down from lamp posts.

      12/19/16 6:51 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Pitchfork,

      Ask Peter for the email…. I will tell you…. NOT for publication…. But… I will tell you…

      First… Your half right…. And…. All wrong…… Some of all the above…. But…. I did recently learn (not that I will EVER get credit for it)…. That the crap I dealt with there…. The end game will effect generations to come…….bigtime…. So… When Jesus and I sit down…. For HIS cross examination….. I should come out ok.

      Charlie Brown and his tree would have been easier.

      Second… Your lucky…. For NOT growing up there…. Something wrong with those people.

      I spoke with an old friend… He used to be…. Employed…. I guess that is the right word…. In that area…. Told him about this conversation….. He died laughing….. We both tried to solve that mess.
      And to find out that it was going on that far back??????

      Three. Early to middle 90’s.

      Four…… Duh. Damn right I know who Bob Wills is…..(what????? You think I’m from Arkansas?????)…. (or DC?????)

      PS…. Been all over Oakland… San Diego.. Yep…. All over that state….

      And grateful to be in Texas.

      M

      12/19/16 7:05 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

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      Anyone know where I can find this mess in Colorado on youtube????

      OMG !!!!!!!

      What the hell is wrong with these people???

      Guy said he would vote Clinton…. Changes just for the headlines…. Then challenges the oath…. Huh????

      WTH. ???????!!!!!!!!!?????

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/19/anti-trump-effort-sparks-electoral-college-drama-in-colorado.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal+-+Politics+-+Text%29

      M

      12/19/16 7:33 PM | Comment Link

    • John Poole said...

      62

      Mitch you need to change your your to you’re in most cases. Juch a suggestion. You are = you’re .

      12/19/16 8:02 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

      63

      Hey John,

      I know…. Its easy to tell when I’m typing on the phone…

      The phone does not see the difference… The PC does….
      The wonderful world of tech.

      Besides….. If it was not for spell check…. I would sound like Bauer.. :- )

      M

      12/19/16 9:07 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

      64

      Btw…

      Pitchfork,

      You would love my MP3 player. It has just about EVERYTHING in it… Everything…. My wife says I’m an “Onion”….

      Including Jazz…. Old and new.

      M

      12/19/16 9:11 PM | Comment Link

    • Mitch said...

      65

      Pitchfork,

      You know, I have been all over the country and a lot of the planet….and after all these years…. You’ve got me thinking and remembering the worst place I have EVER seen. EVER !!!!!

      All the different , sometimes very dangerous, situations… Weird crap….. That is the place is the one that almost finished me…. Repeatedly……

      Strange how you don’t think about something for decades…. And one scratch brings it back…..

      Just….. DAMN !!!!!

      Worst part of that place…. That is how that area wants it… And likes it….

      The concepts of right and wrong…. Justice…. Truth…. Honor…..all the good things….. They don’t apply there…

      I remember once…. Attending a briefing of a police involved shooting there… It was a huge mess….

      Cop (elite drug task force guy (hear my disgust ????)… Shot a guy in the street…. In front of his house…. Guy was unarmed… Just was out in the street working on his car….
      Immediately after the shooting…. Every cop there turned off the body cams….( they screwed up…. Left one of the cars dash cams going ) …

      Then a squad ran in the house…. Turned it over searching for a weapon…. Found one…. Ran back out…. Wiped the weapon down…threw it next to the body….. And called it “justified”.

      The weapon was a pellet pistol….. Old style….. Clearly a “toy”.

      This was common practice.

      Bizzare part….. Local cops used to use pictures of that “weapon”…. Showed it in slide shows type thing….. To rotary groups… City councils… Etc…. Trying to drum up support, etc.

      Couple years later…. Most of the “elite drug task force”….. Went to prison…..running more dope and weapons than the DEA and ATF combined.

      Most any of them got….. 3 months….

      At 9/11…. There was a little market…. East side of the freeway… Right on main….
      There was a “riot” there….. The market was “Arab ” owned….

      Place got burned to the ground…. Owner. Nice guy…. Was hung from a street light…..

      “official” cause of the fire….. Coffee pot…. “official” cause of desth….. Suicide…. ” distraught over the loss of his business”….

      The “rioters”…. The 80 cops they had in a town with something like 4,000 people in it.

      The business man…. He was a Shiek. Father of four….

      Between his three businesses… About a hundred employees.

      So…. Yeah….. Congratulations on getting away from there…

      Place just kills life.

      M

      12/20/16 7:07 AM | Comment Link

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